When you're broke, being smart with money isn't enough. In this episode, Steve Rhode (the old Get Out of Debt Guy) and Damon Day (the new Get Out of Debt Guy) unpack the hidden costs of living in debt—how fees, interest, lost time, and limited options keep people stuck. From $14 billion in late fees to the myth of credit scores over freedom, this is the must-hear reality check about what debt is really costing you. And more importantly, what you can do about it.

💡 Free resources: https://getoutofdebt.org
💬 Talk to Damon: https://damonday.com