Transforming Trauma

Bonnie Badenoch is a therapist, mentor, teacher, author, and has spent the last fifteen years integrating the discoveries of relational neuroscience into her therapy practice. She's the co-founder of the nonprofit agency Nurturing the Heart with the Brain in Mind. For twenty-five years, she has worked with trauma survivors to reshape their neural landscape to support a life of meaning and resilience.

Through exploration of her own developmental trauma, Bonnie was able to receive the support that she needed and was inspired to help others.

Bonnie reflects on the importance of true safety, true presence, and connection as essential elements for healing — and she believes it's vital for therapists to do their own work in order for them to be healthy enough to be present, safe, and connected to themselves and their clients in the therapeutic space.

Bonnie's approach, similar to NARM, is grounded in a therapist's capacity for humility, which has to do with the way therapists meet their clients with openness and curiosity, and not as experts or being focused on "fixing their clients". Bonnie gives a couple examples of clients and the growth that they have experienced due to the relational focus in their therapy.

Safety, curiosity, and space for clients to connect to their own inner wisdom - which in NARM is part of the agency process - can lead to profound healing and transformation. Bonnie reflects on the power of the therapist "really respecting space and trusting the wisdom inside the person — and if we can just sit together and keep holding space, what needs to come forward will come forward, and it'll come forward at a pace that's manageable for the person."

Bonnie reflects on what gives her hope amidst all the fear and devastation that goes on in the world and between one another. She believes that who we are inherently yearns to orient towards connection and health.

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Ken Seeley has been professionally and personally involved in recovery since his sobriety date of July 14th, 1989. His experience with recovery and boundless enthusiasm helps him support changes in the lives of people suffering from the disease of addiction. Ken is also an author and founder of Ken Seeley Communities and Intervention 911 in Palm Springs, California. He's been a featured interventionist on the Emmy award winning television series, Intervention, since 2005.

At one time, Ken wasn't aware of how trauma played a role in his own struggles with addiction. Ken hopes listeners will look deeper into their own unaddressed or unprocessed trauma and emphasizes that even though some people might not think they are impacted by trauma, many find that if they dig deeper within themselves and expand their understanding of trauma, they can become aware of how they have been impacted.

Through learning about complex trauma, specifically through NARM, Ken started to understand what trauma was and how he was impacted by it. His understanding of what trauma can look like broadened beyond the more common ways it's often viewed, such as physical, sexual, and verbal abuse. Ken shares some of the personal experiences he endured from being bullied by his peers in grade school and how this impacted him.

Ken appreciates how NARM focuses on asking questions in a curious, nonthreatening, and relational way. He found how supportive it can be to have the space of openness and curiosity that the NARM framework provides for healing.

About Ken: Ken Seeley has remained professionally and personally involved in recovery since his sobriety date of July 14, 1989. He applies his relevant experience and boundless enthusiasm to change the lives of people suffering from the disease of addiction. His innate compassion for fellow addicts continually bolsters his ability to connect and communicate with addicts and their families. Ken's remarkable success rate has turned him into one of the most sought-after interventionists in the country. Ken is also an author, founder of Ken Seeley Communities and Intervention911 in Palm Springs, CA, and has been a featured interventionist on the Emmy award-winning A&E television series, Intervention since 2005.

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kscfamily.com

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www.youtube.com/channel/UCIRVKrPgjdBE7H_jcOA6R9Q

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The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.

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Kathy Nielson recently completed the Level 1 NARM Online Basics Training and is now a NARM-Informed Professional. Kathy shares about her multifaceted involvement in her community of North Minneapolis. This is a community full of connection and engagement, a multiracial community where 84% of residents are people of color, but also a community where so many are living through racial trauma and the impact of intergenerational trauma and poverty.

In her community, Kathy wears many hats. Not only is she a volleyball coach, she's also the owner of Lion's Fire, a mobile wood-fired pizza business and social venture with a purpose to employ, train, and build connection with female student athletes. She's also the cofounder of a small neighborhood-based nonprofit called Lions Ink, which is focused on gathering and sharing relational and financial resources to support a new generation of young individuals and families as they move from survival toward emotional and financial flourishing.

What made Kathy interested in attending a NARM training was, in part, her own trauma, but also the trauma she knew her volleyball players were experiencing. Kathy wanted to understand how to support her players more effectively with their trauma, so as she was doing research online she found the Transforming Trauma podcast, and then signed up for the NARM Online Basics Training.

Healing in spaces outside of therapy and between non-clinicians is an intention that Kathy shares through her conversation with Sarah. Kathy reflects on how she notices that she relates to herself differently since being in the NARM Online Basics Training training. She has shifted her ability to be more present instead of overriding her feelings. She shares that this has supported her to be more present and in relationship with her players as opposed to trying to fix or change herself and her players.

Kathy expresses a heartfelt appreciation for the work she gets to do and shares that she feels privileged being able to coach and be with her players.

About Kathy:

Kathy Nielsen's work is rooted in North Minneapolis, a community full of joy and aptitude where 84% of residents are people of color. Many are rising through complex trauma, racial trauma, and generational poverty. Kathy wears several hats: one as the head volleyball coach at Minneapolis North Community High School. She's also the owner of Lion's Fire, a mobile wood fired pizza social venture with a purpose to employ, train and journey with female student athletes in North Minneapolis. And she's the co-founder of a small neighborhood based non-profit called Lion's Ink, which is focused on gathering and sharing relational and financial resources to support a new generation of young people and young families as they move from survival toward emotional and financial flourishing.

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https://www.lionsink.org

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Deb Dana, LCSW, is a founding member of the Polyvagal Institute and Coordinator of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium at the Kinsey Institute, Indiana University. Deb shares with our host, Sarah, about her work with the Polyvagal Theory, a clinical theory developed by Dr. Stephen Porges, and how she has translated the theory into clinical application, including everyday application.

Deb describes the Polyvagal framework that views the nervous system as a common denominator of human experience, and shares, "It's my belief we should all learn how to operate our nervous systems in some way."

Deb breaks down the Polyvagal Theory for listeners and shares three organizing principles: hierarchy, neuroception, and co-regulation. Deb talks further about how different life experiences, including developmental trauma, result in nervous systems moving in and out of regulation and dysregulation in different ways. Deb says, "It's not so much what happened to you, it's how your nervous system responds to what happens to you." This understanding is aligned with the NeuroAffective Relational Model (NARM) and highlights how different people experience and adapt to the same traumatic experience in different ways.

Deb describes a "safety-danger equation" that people unconsciously calculate in order to determine what feels safe for them at any given moment. Sarah shares how this orientation aligns with what is referred to in NARM as Adaptive Survival Styles, the ways that children learn to adapt to developmental trauma and which gets carried into adulthood as filters for viewing Self, others and one's life.

Deb and Sarah both emphasize the importance of curiosity and being able to sit with the unknown, and how that leads to a greater awareness of our nervous system states. In NARM, the process of inquiry invites curiosity and compassion for the clients' experience and nervous system states, which supports what in NARM is called an "Embodied Adult Consciousness".

The conversation concludes with Deb and Sarah sharing the powerful outcomes of having more awareness of our nervous system states, more curiosity, and more compassion for ourselves.

About Deb:

Deb Dana, LCSW, is a clinician and consultant specializing in working with complex trauma and Coordinator of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium at the Kinsey Institute, Indiana University. She developed the Rhythm of Regulation clinical training series and lectures internationally on ways in which polyvagal theory informs work with trauma survivors.

Connect with Deb:

Deb Dana offers trainings, podcasts, interviews on her website www.rhythmofregulation.com and on the Polyvagal Institute website www.polyvagalinstitute.org

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The NARM Training Institute presents a summertime gift to Transforming Trauma listeners: a special topic webinar from the NARM Inner Circle online program. This webinar provides a window into the Inner Circle learning community where helping professionals from around the world come together to learn more about the NARM approach to resolving Complex Trauma.

In this webinar, NARM and Working with Anxiety, Anger and Rage, NARM creator, Dr. Laurence Heller, and NARM Senior Faculty Brad Kammer, explore how unresolved anger can lead to anxiety, a common symptom for so many individuals. They also discuss how the NeuroAffective Relational Model (NARM) works with protest and anger to support clients' reconnection to their authentic Self. Throughout the episode, they introduce several self-reflective exercises to support listeners' learning process.

Larry and Brad touch on such areas as:

• How childhood protest turns into anger and rage
• The difference between healthy rage and unresolved anger
• How NARM holds anxiety not as an emotion, but as a process related to our emotions
• How unresolved anger relates to anxiety and panic
• How NARM works with the impulses toward vengeance and violence
• How NARM supports containment and not catharsis
• How feeling into the primary emotion of anger and rage - without acting it out - leads to expansiveness and a sense of freedom

If you enjoy this episode, we invite you to explore the NARM Inner Circle online learning program, where we host NARM Topic Webinars like this one every month.

An example of webinar topics from the Inner Circle are: Differentiating Shock and Developmental Trauma; Working with Shame, Self-Hatred and Self-Sabotage; Differentiating Depression and Grief; Complex Trauma and Addictions; Relational Trauma, Intimacy and Sexuality; Addressing Burnout in Helping Professionals; and the NARM Approach for Supporting Personal and Spiritual Growth.

To learn more about the Inner Circle and to sign up for a free two-week trial, please visit: www.narmtraining.com/freetrial

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The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.

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Marjorie Florestal is a trauma-informed law professor, storyteller, and fiction writer who trained in the NeuroAffective Relational Model (NARM). Sarah and Marjorie discuss the integration of trauma, law, storytelling, and ways to support healing through a trauma-informed lens.

While still a law professor, Marjorie completed a Masters' degree in Jungian Psychology where she met Brad Kammer, NARM Senior Faculty. Marjorie shares how she was greatly impacted by Brad's teaching, not only professionally but also personally. She followed her intuition that learning the NeuroAffective Relational Model would somehow benefit her in better supporting her law students.

Marjorie and Sarah discuss the struggles many law students have with their mental health, specifically in their last year of school. Marjorie states, "40% of our students are clinically depressed and then it just snowballs from there into the profession." She plans to utilize what she's learned in her NARM training and incorporate that into her class that she's developing called "Trauma-Informed Lawyering". Marjorie hopes that if we can help law students with trauma, we can change the culture of the whole profession.

Marjorie also shares her experience as being a woman of color in teaching law, and how she relates to the current state of criminal justice in the United States. She shares, "as a black woman I could not fathom being part of a system that wholesale channels people of color into cages." Marjorie recently facilitated an hour-long session at her law school looking at racial trauma and the healing potential of myths and stories.

This episode concludes with Marjorie sharing a beautiful story called, The Stolen Mother Moon. She expresses that she has a personal connection to the story due to the loss of her mother when she was nine. She relates this story to collective trauma, symbolic of the stolen mothers from Africa who were abused and enslaved yet they persevered and demanded justice. She states, "there will always be darkness, and we can see that darkness as an opportunity for more work to be done."

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Marjorie Florestal has been a lawyer and law professor for over 25 years. She began her career as an international trade and development lawyer for the Clinton Administration before heading up a multimillion dollar project of technical assistance training for subSaharan Africa. Marjorie later became a full-time, tenured professor at McGeorge Law School in Sacramento where she began to recognize the role of trauma in legal education. This spark of the unexpected led her to the Masters program in Jungian psychology at Sonoma State University, and she is completing a PhD in human development at Fielding Graduate University. Marjorie continues to teach law part-time at the University of California, Davis. When not occupied with issues of trauma and healing, she writes legal thrillers and is a pet mom to four unruly dogs.

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The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.

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Dave Berger, MFT, PT, LCMHC, MA, SEP is a somatic psychotherapist, physical therapist, bodyworker and educator. He owns and runs a training program for trauma practitioners called BASE: Relational Bodywork and Somatic Education Training.

Dave's intention for this episode is to educate and inform practitioners about the need to understand how the structures and systems in the physical body are involved with trauma and trauma healing. Sarah and Dave talk about the overlap between Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (C-PTSD) and its impact on the organization of the physical body, and its correlation to chronic pain.

Dave explains that the relationship between chronic stress and various medical syndromes, including pain syndromes, is not well understood. Dave shares that his experiences have helped him develop the understanding that "chronic distress patterns lead to and are part of medical syndromes." He finds that these syndromes manifest in physical as well as psychological symptoms and disorders, and that it's important to know and understand both.

Sarah and Dave reflect on the similarities between Dave's perspective and the NARM perspective, and they both agree that to address complex trauma the interventions have to include the body, the mind and be embedded in relationship.

Dave believes that we have to have the capacity to be in our own bodies if we want to be able to invite deeper relationships and hold complexity. Sarah reflects on how NARM invites therapists to explore their own relationship with themselves and how this impacts the therapeutic relationship.

Dave ends with a quote by Peter Levine that trauma "is not a life sentence," signifying the possibilities of transforming trauma. Sarah reminds us that this idea inspired the intention, and name, of the NARM podcast, Transforming Trauma.

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To celebrate our growing NARM international community, we're offering a special 50% discount for new annual members of the Inner Circle online program. For those interested, go to www.narmtraining.com/innercircle to sign up and use the checkout code: JUNE2020 -- offer available until June 30th, 2020.

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The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.

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"I have recently started sharing my own personal journey with DID to fight stigma and to advocate that we deserve to be treated like people as well." - Erin Lewis, NARM Therapist

Clinical Mental Health Counselor Erin Lewis is a trauma therapist from North Carolina who specializes in Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), formerly known as Multiple Personality Disorder.

Erin herself has been treated for DID and is committed to promoting education and supporting the needs for traumatized individuals, including those with DID. Her mission is to further treatment across the US in terms of how we view and treat DID.

She is a strong proponent for using NARM in her efforts. Erin not only wants to help others who are impacted by Dissociative Identity Disorder, she wants to change the stigma and educate those who might not otherwise know about it, including medical and mental health professionals.

Erin, who recently completed the Level 2 NARM Therapist Training, describes how the NARM framework for understanding complex trauma is so helpful in working with individuals with DID. She has been integrating NARM with Internal Family Systems (IFS) in her practice. Erin has studied other clinical theories and approaches and feels strongly that many miss the mark. She shares that she really appreciates how NARM addresses consent, specifically how NARM starts sessions with inquiring about what the client wants for themselves.

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At the NARM Training Institute, we're excited to unveil a new video series we're launching this month in the NARM Inner Circle online program.

Over the course of the next year, the focus of Senior Faculty Brad Kammer's demonstration sessions will be on NARM and DID. Erin has made herself available to demonstrate how NARM can be applied in working over multiple sessions with a client with DID. The June 2021 NARM Demo is the first in a series of these NARM demos with Erin and Brad that will continue in the Inner Circle every other month this year.

To celebrate our growing NARM international community, we're offering a special 50% discount for new annual members of the Inner Circle online program. For those interested, go to www.narmtraining.com/innercircle to sign up and use the checkout code: JUNE2020 -- offer available until June 30th, 2020.

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Erin's contact info:

Website: https://www.nccuttingedgecounseling.com/

FB: https://www.facebook.com/Nccec2020

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nc-cutting-edge-counselling-pllc-2507b6204/

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The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.

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"Music definitely opened up my heart and I started to actually feel things. The next thing I know, I'm using music to make sense of my experience." - Nick Larson

Sarah talks with musician Nick Larson, California-based songwriter, musician, and member of the band Próxima Parada. He uses his experiences growing up in dysfunction and working through trauma to create uplifting music that promotes healing.

They discuss the stigmas that surround therapy, familial and intergenerational trauma, vulnerability, reconnecting to our hearts, and the role music can play in the process of healing trauma. Nick hopes listeners feel encouraged "to give themselves permission to use music, poetry, or whatever outlet that may be, to use their suffering and trauma as fuel for creating art, beauty, and something meaningful for them."

So much of what Nick shares aligns with NARM, and Sarah reflects that what Nick describes is a process of using self-shaming and self-rejection to shut oneself down in order to survive. These adaptive survival strategies, though life-saving as children, become obstacles as we move into adulthood. Nick reports that going to therapy, and learning a new way of relating to himself, was a game-changer. Through therapy and through his music, Nick has learned how to reconnect to himself.

Through the pandemic, while touring and playing shows has not been possible, Nick has focused on what is available to him, and has taken the time to write songs -- more than thirty of them. Proxima Parada self-recorded a new album, "Second Brother" which will be available in August 2021.

To listen to Nick's music, you can find Proxima Parada on Spotify and YouTube and at http://www.proximaparadamusic.com

About Nick:

Nick Larson is a songwriter, musician, and member of the band Próxima Parada who uses his experiences growing up in dysfunction and working with trauma to create uplifting music that promotes healing. Born and raised in California, Nick currently lives in San Luis Obispo.

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The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.

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"...think about what it means to be human, and what kind of a human you really want to be." -- Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett

Our host, Sarah, is joined by neuroscientist Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett. Initially working as a clinical psychologist, Lisa went on to study emotions and how our brains work, asking questions about the neuro-biological basis for mental and physical health.

Lisa has written two books: The Secret Life of the Brain, about how emotions are made, and her newest book, Seven and Half Lessons About the Brain, a book of essays. She describes the essays as "neuroscience nuggets to live a different life, a better life, or maybe be happy with the life that you have."

Since the NeuroAffective Relational Model (NARM) is informed by the latest findings within neuroscience, and particularly in the areas of attachment, emotions and trauma, Lisa's work has much to contribute to more effective clinical interventions. Core to both of Lisa's books is her assertion that "the most important job of our brains is to run a budget for our bodies." Similar to the concept of Self-Regulation, she describes, "your brain didn't evolve to think and feel and see…it evolved to control your body."

Lisa names that knowledge about our brains gives us more choices and options, as well as increased "responsibility" for ourselves. This responsibility aligns with NARM and the concept of Self-Agency. NARM also aligns with Lisa's research, that though we cannot change the past, we can change how we relate to it. Lisa closes by sharing the key invitation from her book, "to think about what it means to be human, and what kind of a human you really want to be."

About Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett

Lisa Feldman Barrett, PhD, is among the top one percent most cited scientists in the world for her revolutionary research in psychology and neuroscience. She is a University Distinguished Professor of Psychology at Northeastern University, with appointments at Harvard Medical School and Massachusetts General Hospital.

In addition to the books Seven and a Half Lessons About the Brain and How Emotions are Made, Dr. Barrett has published over 240 peer-reviewed, scientific papers appearing in Science, Nature Neuroscience, and other top journals in psychology and cognitive neuroscience, as well as six academic volumes published by Guilford Press.

Among her many accomplishments, Dr. Barrett has testified before Congress, presented her research to the FBI, consulted to the National Cancer Institute, appeared on Through The Wormhole with Morgan Freeman and The Today Show with Maria Shriver, and been a featured guest on public television and podcast and radio programs worldwide. She is also an elected fellow of the American Academy of Arts & Sciences and the Royal Society of Canada.

Website: www.lisafeldmanbarrett.com

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The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.

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