Welcome back to Transmissions, a weekly podcast series from Aquarium Drunkard. This week on the show: Pam Grossman, host of The Witch Wave podcast and author of a new book, Magic Maker: The Enchanted Path to Creativity. This show, at its core, is about the relationship between magic and art. What do we mean by magic? Let’s turn to Grossman's book for a helpful take. She writes that magic is quote, “a way of shifting one’s entire mode of being in the direction of Creative Force and interacting with it…When magic is working properly, there is a feeling in the body of being activated. Power is raised. Ideas flow. Something outside of our egos is allowed entrance, and we respond to its visitation in kind.”

We recently caught up with a jetlagged Grossman after she spoke at at the first ever Witch Summit in Phoenix, Arizona, making this one of the first podcasts in years that we've taped live and in person. So special thanks to Michael Krassner at Cibo for allowing us use of his space. We cover a lot of ground, from the work of visionary artists like Joanna Brouk and Laraaji to the witchy elements at play in the Fleetwood Mac discography, but most of all, we focus in on what happens when we get out our own way and let something flow through us. You might call it something else, but these days, we're calling it magic. Here's why, this week on Transmissions.

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