Power House

Trapped equity and the next mortgage opportunity


Listen Later

HousingWire brought leading housing economists and capital markets experts to Dallas for the Housing Economic Summit with one goal: translate charts and forecasts into what actually matters for professionals trying to close deals every day.

In this episode, John Toohig of Raymond James breaks down whole loan trading—the buying and selling of unsecuritized mortgages—and explains why understanding liquidity on the back end is now just as important as originating the loan itself. As originators adjust to life after the 2021–2022 refinance boom, John outlines where the real opportunities are today: HELOCs, second liens, ARMs, and purchase loans—especially in a market full of “trapped equity.”

He also explains why mortgage credit is historically clean (perhaps too clean), why banks are re-entering the ARM market, which loan types are hardest to sell in the secondary market, and what separates lenders who consistently move loans from those who struggle with due diligence.

For originators, capital markets teams, and executives navigating 2026, this episode turns macro signals into actionable insight.

Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:

  • Whole loan trades are faster and simpler than securitization
  • HELOCs and second liens represent major opportunity amid trapped equity
  • Banks are returning — especially in ARMs
  • Credit is extremely “clean,” perhaps tighter than necessary
  • Organized files and disciplined underwriting drive repeat investor demand
  • Related to this episode:

    • John Toohig's Bio
    • John Toohig's LinkedIn
    • The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

      ...more
      View all episodesView all episodes
      Download on the App Store

      Power HouseBy HousingWire

      • 4.7
      • 4.7
      • 4.7
      • 4.7
      • 4.7

      4.7

      63 ratings


      More shows like Power House

      View all
      BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast by BiggerPockets

      BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast

      16,724 Listeners

      Real Estate Rockstars Podcast by Aaron Amuchastegui

      Real Estate Rockstars Podcast

      885 Listeners

      The Tom Ferry Podcast Experience by Tom Ferry

      The Tom Ferry Podcast Experience

      1,116 Listeners

      Real Wealth Show: Real Estate Investing Podcast by Kathy Fettke / RealWealth

      Real Wealth Show: Real Estate Investing Podcast

      414 Listeners

      Tax Smart Real Estate Investors Podcast by Hall CPA

      Tax Smart Real Estate Investors Podcast

      424 Listeners

      Keeping It Real Podcast • Secrets Of Top 1% REALTORS ® • Interviews With Real Estate Brokers & Agents by D.J. Paris

      Keeping It Real Podcast • Secrets Of Top 1% REALTORS ® • Interviews With Real Estate Brokers & Agents

      272 Listeners

      RealTrending by RealTrends

      RealTrending

      15 Listeners

      Real Estate News: Real Estate Investing Podcast by Kathy Fettke / RealWealth

      Real Estate News: Real Estate Investing Podcast

      562 Listeners

      Ninja Selling Podcast by Ninja Selling

      Ninja Selling Podcast

      337 Listeners

      Massive Agent Podcast by Dustin Brohm

      Massive Agent Podcast

      341 Listeners

      Ken McElroy Show by Ken McElroy

      Ken McElroy Show

      724 Listeners

      HousingWire Daily by HousingWire

      HousingWire Daily

      167 Listeners

      BiggerPockets Daily by BiggerPockets

      BiggerPockets Daily

      317 Listeners

      On The Market by BiggerPockets

      On The Market

      905 Listeners

      Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered by Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered

      Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered

      86 Listeners

      The Millionaire Real Estate Agent | The MREA Podcast by Keller Podcast Network

      The Millionaire Real Estate Agent | The MREA Podcast

      399 Listeners

      Top of Mind by HousingWire

      Top of Mind

      28 Listeners

      House of Data by Altos Research

      House of Data

      4 Listeners

      The RMD Podcast by Reverse Mortgage Daily

      The RMD Podcast

      4 Listeners