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How the church can move from condemning boundaries to redemptive restoration through relational discernment, radical invitation, and the long-haul work of love. Mike, Tim, and surprise guest Seth Erre dive deep into what real church discipline looks like in a centered-set community—and how bounded and fuzzy churches often get it wrong. Part 5 of the Centered Set Series unpacks core differences between boundary-focused, fuzzy, and centered approaches—and how only the last can truly embody the grace of Jesus.
Key Takeaways: • Bounded Church Discipline vs. Centered Restoration – Why enforcing moral or doctrinal rules often leads to shame, exclusion, and hiding rather than transformation. • The Importance of Relational Discernment – Why you can’t truly address spiritual formation without long-term, intentional relationship. • Fuzzy Set Pitfalls – How churches without clear direction avoid conflict yet lack the courage to uphold the call of Jesus in meaningful ways. • Jesus-Focused Invitation Over Religious Control – Approaching accountability as an invitational journey toward transformation rather than a list of checkboxes. • Learning from Painful Stories – Heartfelt listener deconstruction stories reveal the harm inflicted by rigid boundaries and the healing power of centered relationships.
Bonus: Tim shares an Eddie Vedder quote about maturing activism and how it parallels the journey of deconstruction, growth, and center-set discipleship.
Resources Mentioned: • Centered-Set Church by Mark Baker – [Link] • “Repenting of Religion” by Greg Boyd – [Link] • Romans 3:23 and Ephesians 2 (teased as upcoming conversation topics) • Episode Series: Centered Set Series • Book Mentioned: “Joy as an Act of Resistance” by Idles (referenced in passing)
Join us as we practice discipling with grace, truth, patience, and Christ-centered community. Subscribe to the podcast, leave a review on Apple or Spotify, and engage with Voxology across social media.
We’d love your questions and feedback too! Email us at [email protected] and let’s keep walking this journey together.
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Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford
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As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram.
We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV.
Our Merch Store! ETSY
Learn more about the Voxology Podcast
Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify
Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon
The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio
Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook
Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre
Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford
Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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How the church can move from condemning boundaries to redemptive restoration through relational discernment, radical invitation, and the long-haul work of love. Mike, Tim, and surprise guest Seth Erre dive deep into what real church discipline looks like in a centered-set community—and how bounded and fuzzy churches often get it wrong. Part 5 of the Centered Set Series unpacks core differences between boundary-focused, fuzzy, and centered approaches—and how only the last can truly embody the grace of Jesus.
Key Takeaways: • Bounded Church Discipline vs. Centered Restoration – Why enforcing moral or doctrinal rules often leads to shame, exclusion, and hiding rather than transformation. • The Importance of Relational Discernment – Why you can’t truly address spiritual formation without long-term, intentional relationship. • Fuzzy Set Pitfalls – How churches without clear direction avoid conflict yet lack the courage to uphold the call of Jesus in meaningful ways. • Jesus-Focused Invitation Over Religious Control – Approaching accountability as an invitational journey toward transformation rather than a list of checkboxes. • Learning from Painful Stories – Heartfelt listener deconstruction stories reveal the harm inflicted by rigid boundaries and the healing power of centered relationships.
Bonus: Tim shares an Eddie Vedder quote about maturing activism and how it parallels the journey of deconstruction, growth, and center-set discipleship.
Resources Mentioned: • Centered-Set Church by Mark Baker – [Link] • “Repenting of Religion” by Greg Boyd – [Link] • Romans 3:23 and Ephesians 2 (teased as upcoming conversation topics) • Episode Series: Centered Set Series • Book Mentioned: “Joy as an Act of Resistance” by Idles (referenced in passing)
Join us as we practice discipling with grace, truth, patience, and Christ-centered community. Subscribe to the podcast, leave a review on Apple or Spotify, and engage with Voxology across social media.
We’d love your questions and feedback too! Email us at [email protected] and let’s keep walking this journey together.
We're on YouTube if you're into that kinda thing: VOXOLOGY TV
Our Merch Store: ETSY
Learn more about the Voxology Podcast
Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify
Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon
Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and like us on Facebook
Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre
Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford
Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram.
We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV.
Our Merch Store! ETSY
Learn more about the Voxology Podcast
Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify
Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon
The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio
Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook
Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre
Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford
Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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