Vincent travels to the University of Pennsylvania to meet up with Susan, Rick, Gigi and David to discuss the origin of SARS-CoV-2, how the FBI might have reached its conclusion on the matter, and public and political perception of scientific risk. Host: Vincent Racaniello Guests: Susan Weiss, Rick Bushman, Gigi Gronvall, and David Joanson Subscribe (free): Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, RSS, email Become a patron of TWiV! Links for this episode MicrobeTV Discord Server Huanan Seafood Market early COVID-19 epicenter (Science) Spillover market with Michael Worobey (TWiV 876) Unclassified intelligence on SARS-CoV-2 origins (IC) Conspiracy theories about COVID-19 (Foreign Policy) COVID-19 not from lab leak (Globe and Mail) Timestamps by Jolene. Thanks! Intro music is by Ronald Jenkees Send your virology questions and comments to [email protected]