Flourishing After Addiction with Carl Erik Fisher

Understanding addiction through contemplative science, with Dr. Jud Brewer


Listen Later

Judson Brewer ("Dr. Jud") is a renowned addiction psychiatrist and neuroscientist who has spent over two decades studying the mechanisms of addiction and the effects of mindfulness on behavior change. On this episode of Flourishing After Addiction, it was great to talk with him about some extraordinary connections between the science of addiction and contemplative practice.

 We talk about Jud's own experience with panic attacks, how he found mindfulness to be a powerful tool to work with anxiety, and how this personal experience helped him to see the connections between addictive cravings and the fundamental processes of anxiety. More broadly, we discuss how the urge to control our experiences is often the root of our suffering ("control is the problem, not the solution"). He connects this notion in how the brain's reward-based learning system works and how it can lead to perversely reinforcing unhelpful habits. And connecting this work to broader topics in contemplative practice, he describes how Buddhist philosophy and the concept of craving relates to the underpinnings of addiction he's uncovered in his neuroscience lab. We talk about the role of values and ethics in recovery and in treatment, including how to work with ethics as a practice without getting bogged down by a sense of obligation or guilt--approaching ethics with a sense of curiosity and openness, rather than judgment or rigidity.

And, to conclude the episode, Jud leads us through a beautiful guided practice of opening and curiosity, a mini-meditation to help us cultivate awareness and non-judgmental acceptance.

Dr. Jud Brewer is an addiction psychiatrist, neuroscientist, mindfulness practitioner, and author. He is the Director of Research and Innovation at the Mindfulness Center and an associate professor at the School of Public Health at Brown University. His research focuses on the neural mechanisms of mindfulness and how it can be used to treat addiction and other behavioral disorders. He has published numerous scientific articles, and he is the author of The Craving Mind (Yale University Press, 2017) and the New York Times best-seller, Unwinding Anxiety (Avery/Penguin Random House, 2021). He is also an experienced mindfulness teacher and has trained thousands of people in the art of meditation and mindfulness-based approaches to behavior change.

In this episode:
- Jud's website
- his apps for habit change
- Episodes mentioned: Melissa Febos, John Kelly, Elias Dakwar, and Eric Garland
- Jud's academic work connecting addiction science to the Buddhist concept of dependent origination: "Craving to quit"
- "Meditation experience is associated with differences in default mode network activity and connectivity"

Sign up for my newsletter and immediately receive my own free guide to the many pathways to recovery, as well as regular updates on new interviews, material, and other writings. 

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Flourishing After Addiction with Carl Erik FisherBy Carl Erik Fisher

  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5

5

62 ratings


More shows like Flourishing After Addiction with Carl Erik Fisher

View all
Hidden Brain by Hidden Brain, Shankar Vedantam

Hidden Brain

43,563 Listeners

Tara Brach by Tara Brach

Tara Brach

10,540 Listeners

Tricycle Talks by Tricycle: The Buddhist Review

Tricycle Talks

384 Listeners

The Rich Roll Podcast by Rich Roll

The Rich Roll Podcast

11,883 Listeners

Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel by Esther Perel Global Media

Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel

14,907 Listeners

This Naked Mind Podcast by Annie Grace

This Naked Mind Podcast

2,574 Listeners

Soberful by Veronica Valli & Chip Somers

Soberful

471 Listeners

This Jungian Life Podcast by Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

This Jungian Life Podcast

1,644 Listeners

Conspirituality by Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Conspirituality

2,045 Listeners

Sober Powered: The Neuroscience of Being Sober by Gillian Tietz, MS, CPRC

Sober Powered: The Neuroscience of Being Sober

1,244 Listeners

The Ezra Klein Show by New York Times Opinion

The Ezra Klein Show

15,930 Listeners

We Can Do Hard Things by Treat Media and Glennon Doyle

We Can Do Hard Things

41,563 Listeners

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens by Nate Hagens

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

423 Listeners

The Interview by The New York Times

The Interview

1,592 Listeners

The Mel Robbins Podcast by Mel Robbins

The Mel Robbins Podcast

19,771 Listeners