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One of the most common questions those who have experienced harm in a faith community ask is, "What do I do if I want to tell my story, but I can't right now?" Maybe you signed an NDA. Maybe you have a legitimate fear associated with talking. If part of healing involves talking, what if I can't talk?

Amy Fritz invites Lydia Craig and Melissa Hogan to join her to talk about how they navigated this for themselves and offer suggestions and hope for others.

Topics Discussed:

*How Amy, Lydia, and Melissa connected.

*When an unhealthy "gossip policy" gets in the way of having important conversations.

*How we figured out what was safe to share and who was safe to share with.

*Being conditioned to not speak.

*Reasons we didn't/couldn't speak for a time.

*Other ways to process painful experiences like this without speaking directly and publicly.

*Prioritizing your well-being.

*Going to those who have exited prior to our own exits and asking to hear their story.

*Documenting your experience.

*The advantage we had with being associated with a public figure.

*Private sensemaking.

*What we would do differently.

Links:

Twittergate - http://www.thedailybeast.com/spies-cash-and-fear-inside-christian-money-guru-dave-ramseys-social-media-witch-hunt

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https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2021/11/03/20-our-ramsey-story-part-4-the-got-your-six-meeting-1-of-2-episodes/

https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/01/12/28-krispin-mayfield-should-i-stay-in-my-faith-community-to-try-to-make-a-difference/

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Hi listeners!

Usually, we save these bonus episodes for Patreon supporters. This is an episode I shared with them in December. I decided to share it with all of you so you can see what kind of content is being shared on Patreon. Sometimes I do an entire stand-alone episode and sometimes I share portions of interviews just for my patrons.

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To kick off 2023 Amy shares a brief origin story of the Untangled Faith podcast.

Quotes from this episode:

"My adult life has been filled with the realization that so many of these people and systems that influenced what I believed being a “good Christian” looked like weren’t who or what I thought they were."

"So many people I grew up viewing as the standard bearers of Christianity turned out to be hypocrites and grifters and abusers."

"And that’s when felt this heavy feeling that someone needed to go first. If someone would just be willing to go first others would likely have the courage to do so, too.

And maybe I could go first."

Blog post Amy wrote in April 2020 about why her husband resigned from Ramsey Solutions: Our Story of Leaving Ramsey Solutions • Amy Fritz (amyfritzwrites.com) https://amyfritzwrites.com/2020/04/15/leaving-ramsey-solutions/

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https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2021/12/29/27-ryan-ramsey-a-message-for-people-who-have-lost-their-faith-community-for-those-who-care-about-them/

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Gretchen Baskerville joins Amy Fritz to talk about Gretchen's book The Life Saving Divorce.

Lifesaving Divorce Website

Divorce Saves Lives

Examples of Abuse

Divorce and Excommunication

Abuse in Religious Homes

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The 2nd most popular episode of 2022 was episode 39: The Problem with Financial Peace University and Dave Ramsey's Financial Rhetoric.  ⁠ This conversation we had was made possible by the fact that those of us involved in this episode have spent the last several years processing together our experiences with the ups and downs of Financial Peace University and the rhetoric coming from the Ramsey Show.⁠ ⁠ While we all had different levels of understanding and adhering to the plan, each of us have found ourselves with serious questions. Some of these questions started before we broke ties with the organization and some of these realizations came later.⁠ ⁠ We don’t claim to be unbiased observers. We all have had very painful and disappointing experiences with Ramsey Solutions, but we don’t think that negates the very real questions we raise.⁠

Links:

D.L. Mayfield, The Myth of the American Dream

Dan Watt- Why Write About Lampo?

Dan Watt- Getting a Mortgage with no credit score

American Gospel movie

Related episodes:

Got Your Six Meeting, Part 1

Got Your Six Meeting, Part 2

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The 3rd most popular episode of 2022 was episode 48: Former Ramsey Solutions Employees share their experience with Ramsey team meetings. Kristen Moser and Dan Watt joined me on this episode for a great conversation.  In this episode, they share what it was like to experience Ramsey Solutions team meetings- particularly when the meetings were used to control a narrative or manage the image of the organization.

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Got Your Six Meeting, Part 1

Got Your Six Meeting, Part 2

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This week's Patreon bonus is an update on the Plagiarizing Pastor.

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Host/Creator: Amy Fritz

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False accusations of abuse or sexual misconduct are rare, but they still happen. So, how do we handle this tension? Markus Watson joins Amy to tell his story of being falsely accused and later exonerated. Markus and Amy talk about the importance of investigations and consistency in following established protocols for handling accusations and Pete Singer, Executive Director of GRACE shares the importance of having investigations run by those who are trained and who have the qualifications to do that investigation.

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42: Boz Tchividjian answers your questions on G.R.A.C.E, Caring Well, #churchtoo, & NDAs – Untangled Faith Podcast

27: Ryan Ramsey- A message for people who have lost their faith community & for those who care about them. – Untangled Faith Podcast

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Beyond Thingification: Helping Your Church Engage in God's Mission. https://amzn.to.3VIJnzs

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Author, church planter, flimmaker, teacher, and faith-based entrepreneur, Josh Buck joins Amy Fritz to talk about his new book, Everyday Activism: Following 7 Practices of Jesus to Create a Just World.

Buck shares how he was radicalized by studying the life of Jesus and what it means to embrace the Gospel of Jubilee.

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49: Kyle J. Howard shares about his work in advocacy for Spiritual Abuse survivors & Racial Trauma survivors. – Untangled Faith Podcast

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Author Traci Rhoades joins Amy to talk about what she has learned from being curious about the way different Christians worship and express their faith. This curiosity has led to her Quaker gatherings, Catholic mass, and Orthodox worship in another language.  And it's led her to the conviction that God called us to be one Church.

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55: A Curious Faith. Guest: Lore Wilbert – Untangled Faith Podcast

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