In this conversation, Zoe and Coach TJ discuss various topics including NSAIDs, the elliptical, intermittent fasting, aid station quesadillas, and what new ultra runners can expect in their first year of training. They emphasize the importance of not overusing NSAIDs, caution against using the elliptical as a substitute for running, debunk the myths surrounding intermittent fasting, and discuss the appropriate fueling options at aid stations. They also provide insights into the progress and accomplishments that new ultra runners can expect in their first two years of training. The conversation discusses the importance of tracking and maintaining consistent training mileage, the recommendation to not race a 100-mile ultra until at least two years of training, and the benefits of VO2 max training for ultra runners. The study mentioned in the conversation focuses on the impact of uphill high-intensity running intervals on well-trained runners' oxygen uptake. It concludes that running uphill can help athletes access 90% of their VO2 max more effectively. The conversation also emphasizes the importance of balancing training stress and recovery and structuring VO2 max training in a year-long training cycle.