When contracts disappear and only value keeps customers loyal, the real work of account management begins.

Alex Raymond talks with Anthony DeShazor, the founder and chief architect of Protia Revenue Systems, about building customer relationships that last when “value is the contract.” Drawing from his experience leading customer success at Givelify, Anthony shares how operating without renewals or lock-ins pushed his team to deliver measurable outcomes every day and redefine what success really means. He explains how taking ownership of value, rather than letting customers define it, turns account managers into strategic partners who drive growth and trust. 

By connecting outcomes to purpose, not just performance, Anthony offers a new way to think about loyalty, communication, and long-term customer success.

Episode Breakdown:

00:00 No Auto-Renewals: When Value Is the Contract

05:15 No Safety Net: Urgency and Prioritization

07:13 Shifting the Value Conversation

10:09 Defining and Communicating Value

12:00 Results: Growth from Outcome Focus

14:01 Always On Value Communication

15:05 EBR Structure for Maximum Impact

21:58 Tracking EBR Success and Retention

28:09 Coordinating Customer Communications

37:06 Starting with Value and Outcomes

Connect with Anthony DeShazor:

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Connect with Alex Raymond:

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