Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the perplexing time references in the Book of Revelation, exploring how phrases like "what must soon take place" and "the time is near" represent a kind of time rather than imminent calendar dates. They discuss the pitfalls of "calendarizing" prophetic scripture, the difference between kairos (opportune time) and chronos (chronological time), and how understanding God's unique timing transforms our perspective on living in the "now and not yet" of the Kingdom.

Key Takeaways:

• Reframing 'Soon' and 'Near' in Revelation – Recognizing that these terms signify a kind of time characterized by urgency and expectancy, not specific dates.
• The Dangers of Calendarizing – Examining historical failures of predicting end times and how such attempts undermine the intended perpetual readiness.
• Kairos vs. Chronos Time – Understanding the biblical distinction between qualitative and quantitative time, and its impact on interpreting scripture.
• Living in the 'Now and Not Yet' – Discussing the practical implications for Christians navigating the overlap of the present age and the age to come.
• Embodied Theology – Reflecting on the importance of practices like baptism as tangible expressions of spiritual truths.

Resources Mentioned:

• The Book of Revelation – Revelation on Bible Gateway
• Acts 1:7 – Acts 1:7 on Bible Gateway
• Didache – Early Christian Writings
• Dallas Willard's Teachings – Dallas Willard Resources
• Tim Gombis – Faith Improvised Podcast – Faith Improvised

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Mike Erre and Tim Stafford grapple with the profound grief and anger following the tragic school shooting in Nashville. They delve into the complexities of gun violence in America, examining how the intertwining of gun culture and evangelical Christianity hinders meaningful action. Through a heartfelt and critical exploration of common arguments against gun control, they challenge listeners to reconsider biblical teachings on violence, self-defense, and what it truly means to follow Jesus in the face of societal injustice.

Key Takeaways:

• Personal Reflections on Grief and Proximity – Mike shares his deep emotional response to the Nashville shooting, emphasizing the impact of its closeness to his community and family.
• Critiquing Common Gun Arguments – Analyzing claims such as "guns don't kill people" and "it's a heart problem, not a gun problem," highlighting their logical and theological flaws.
• The Intertwining of Gun Culture and Evangelicalism – Exploring how guns have become an idol within the church, conflicting with Jesus's teachings of nonviolence and sacrificial love.
• Biblical Examination of Violence and Self-Defense – Discussing misused scriptures and providing context to passages like Luke 22 and the Sermon on the Mount to illuminate Jesus's stance on nonviolence.
• A Call to Action for Christians – Encouraging believers to expand their moral imagination, move beyond the myth of redemptive violence, and embody peacemaking as taught by Jesus.

Guest Highlights: Tim Stafford – Co-host and contributor, offering insightful commentary and leading listeners in a profound "Prayers of the People" segment to lament and seek God's guidance.

Resources Mentioned:

• "God and Guns in America" by Michael Austin
• "Jesus and John Wayne" by Kristin Kobes Du Mez
• Miroslav Volf's Insights – On violence, theology, and reconciliation
• Tim Gombis's Teachings – Addressing the misuse of scripture and moral imagination
• Biblical Passages: Luke 22, the Sermon on the Mount, Romans 13
• Jon Stewart's Viral Interview – Discussing gun laws and safety
• "Prayers of the People" by The Brilliance

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First, Dr. Gupta talks about his own journey and study. If women can’t be trusted with teaching or leading at church, why should they be trusted teaching other women or children? Did the first century understand terms like patriarchy? How does Paul speak about his ministry associates, Phoebe, Prisca, and Junia? Why Mary as the caretaker of the Messiah? How do ideas of status and gender relate? How have we taken our own patriarchal structures and superimposed them onto scripture? Join the conversation as we explore the journey toward authentic, rehumanized ministry. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media.

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Delve into the rich history and enduring significance of "Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing" as we explore how this timeless hymn reshapes our understanding of authentic worship, deconstruction, and the journey back to faith. Tim Stafford discusses the life of Robert Robinson, his transformative encounter with faith, his moments of wandering, and the magic that brought him back—offering insights into how our own stories mirror this journey.

Key Takeaways:

• The Story Behind 'Come Thou Fount' – Uncovering Robert Robinson's journey from a troubled youth to a passionate preacher and hymn writer.
• Worship as Reorientation – Exploring how worship serves as an invitation to re-tune our hearts toward God's grace and justice.
• Embracing Deconstruction for Authentic Faith – Rethinking deconstruction not as a departure, but as a pursuit of genuine understanding and ownership of belief.
• Community's Role in Navigating Faith Journeys – Highlighting the importance of relationships and community in guiding us when we are prone to wander.

Resources Mentioned:

• 'Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing' Lyrics
• 1 Samuel 7:12 – The significance of raising an Ebenezer.
• George Whitefield's Sermons
• Center-Set Approach to Faith – Understanding a posture of moving toward the center rather than strict boundaries.

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Mike and Tim delve into a listener's question about handling church discipline in cases of adultery within the church community. They explore how to approach restoration and reorientation with grace, empathy, and a focus on relationships, rather than mere rule enforcement. Drawing from centered set theology, they discuss the importance of inviting individuals back to the center—Jesus—and the role of community in fostering genuine transformation.

Key Takeaways:

• Invitation Over Exclusion – Emphasizing an invitational approach to church discipline that focuses on restoration rather than shaming or excluding individuals.
• Community and Individualism – Understanding how hyper-individualism impacts our approach to sin and restoration, and the importance of communal relationships in the healing process.
• Good vs. Bad Judgment – Differentiating between condemning judgment and discerning guidance that helps reorient others toward Christ.
• Dealing with Roots, Not Symptoms – Highlighting the necessity of addressing underlying issues rather than just the presenting sin, fostering true transformation.

Resources Mentioned:

• Centered Set Theology – Understanding how this framework impacts church community and discipline.
• Galatians 6 – Insights on restoring others gently and being mindful of our own shortcomings.
• Greg Boyd's Teachings – Perspectives on judgment and discernment within the church.

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Explore how harmful teachings on sexuality within the church have impacted women, and how reclaiming mutuality, consent, and healthy theology can lead to healing and transformation. Join hosts Mike Erre and Tim Stafford as they welcome guests Susie Lind and Katie Haseltine to discuss the damaging effects of purity culture and the importance of including women's perspectives in conversations about sexuality and theology.

Key Takeaways:

• The Harm of Purity Culture – Understanding how purity culture and certain church teachings have negatively affected women's views on sexuality, leading to shame, trauma, and unhealthy relationships.
• Reclaiming Mutuality and Consent – Highlighting the need for mutuality, consent, and respect within relationships, and how these principles align with biblical teachings.
• Women's Perspectives in Theology – Emphasizing the importance of including women's experiences and voices in theological discussions to foster a more holistic understanding.
• Challenging Harmful Teachings – Encouraging critical examination and re-evaluation of traditional teachings that have caused harm, and exploring healthier approaches to sexuality within the church.

Guest Highlights:

Susie Lind – Pastor and Executive Pastor at Journey Church and co-host of the Voxology Podcast. Susie shares her experiences with harmful teachings and discusses the importance of creating safe spaces for healing.

Katie Haseltine – Spiritual director, Enneagram coach, and author of "All the Things: A 30-Day Guide to Experiencing God and the Prayer of Examen". Katie offers insights into the damaging effects of certain church teachings on women and the journey toward reclaiming a healthy view of sexuality.

Resources Mentioned:

• "All the Things" by Katie Haseltine – Amazon Link
• "Women and the Gender of God" by Amy Peeler – Amazon Link

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Discover how re-examining the Book of Revelation through its original context can transform our understanding of its message for today. Mike and Tim sit down with theologians Scot McKnight and Cody Matchett to discuss their new book, "Revelation for the Rest of Us," unraveling misconceptions and highlighting the timeless relevance of this apocalyptic text.

Key Takeaways:

• Understanding Apocalyptic Literature – Exploring Revelation as an art form rich in symbolism and Old Testament imagery, inviting us to see beyond literal interpretations.
• Babylon as a Timeless Empire – Discussing how Babylon represents oppressive systems throughout history and challenges us to identify modern-day parallels.
• Divine Judgments as Calls to Repentance – Rethinking the judgments in Revelation as acts of divine discipline aiming to lead people back to faithfulness.
• The Importance of Community in Interpretation – Emphasizing the value of reading and interpreting Revelation within a community to grasp its deeper meanings.

Guest Highlights: Scot McKnight – Renowned theologian and author, Scott shares insights on rethinking traditional views of Revelation and the significance of context in biblical interpretation.

Cody Matchett – Biblical scholar and co-author, Cody delves into the performance aspect of Revelation and how contemporary readers can engage with the text meaningfully.

Resources Mentioned:

• "Revelation for the Rest of Us" by Scott McKnight and Cody Matchett – Buy the Book
• Scott McKnight's Substack – Subscribe Here
• Michael Gorman's Works on Revelation – Learn More
• James D.G. Dunn's Publications – Explore Here

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Mike and Tim explore the importance of understanding the genre clues in the Book of Revelation, discussing how recognizing it as an apocalypse, a prophecy, and a pastoral letter reshapes our interpretation. They also confront systemic misogyny in the church, reflecting on recent events involving prominent female leaders and the need to address gender inequality.

Key Takeaways:

• Confronting Misogyny in the Church – Discussing recent events highlighting systemic issues with gender inequality and the importance of advocating for change.
• Genre Clues in Revelation – Understanding how acknowledging Revelation's apocalyptic, prophetic, and epistolary genres guides proper interpretation.
• Prophecy as a Call to Faithfulness – Reframing biblical prophecy from predicting the future to encouraging present faithfulness among God's people.
• Importance of Old Testament Context – Emphasizing how familiarity with Old Testament imagery and themes is crucial for decoding Revelation's symbolism.
• Interpreting Revelation Responsibly – Encouraging readers to consider the original audience and cultural context to avoid modern misinterpretations.

Resources Mentioned:

• Beth Allison Barr – Twitter
• Kristin Kobes Du Mez
• Dr. Lynn Cohick
• Northern Seminary
• Books of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel

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Delve into the complexities of evil and suffering as Mike and Tim are joined by scholar Tim Gombis in their Gospel with Gombis series. Together, they explore the origins of evil within the biblical narrative, the role of human collaboration in God's Kingdom, and how the church can respond to a world marred by suffering and injustice.

Key Takeaways:

• The Origins of Evil – Understanding how human rebellion against God's plan introduced chaos and suffering into the world, drawing from Genesis and New Testament teachings.
• God's Kingship and Human Collaboration – Exploring how God's sovereignty is actualized through human beings and the importance of collaborating with God to bring about His reign on earth.
• The Church's Role in a Broken World – Strategies for the church to embody God's reign by banding together, addressing suffering, and fostering communities of compassion and solidarity.
• Sin as Pollution in Purified Space – Discussing the concept of sin not just as moral trespass but as a corruption that affects communal space, and how confession and reconciliation can restore purity.

Guest Highlights:

Tim Gombis – A renowned scholar and theologian, Tim offers profound insights into the problem of evil, the dynamics of God's Kingdom, and the critical role of the church in collaborating with God to heal a broken world.

Resources Mentioned:

• Faith Improvised Podcast by Tim Gombis – Faith Improvised
• Hebrews and Matthew – Scriptural explorations of God's Kingdom and heavenly realities.
• Romans 8 – Insights into suffering, the Spirit's role, and creation's longing for redemption.
• No Country for Old Men – IMDb Link – Referenced to illustrate themes of evil and hope.
• "Rethinking the Atonement" by David Moffitt – Amazon Link

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Explore how recognizing the apocalyptic genre of Revelation transforms our interpretation of this enigmatic book, allowing us to reclaim its original message of hope and comfort. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the importance of genre in biblical texts, discussing how misreading Revelation has led to fear-based teachings rather than the intended encouragement. They also examine the "He Gets Us" Super Bowl ad campaign, offering thoughtful critique on modern evangelism methods and the portrayal of Jesus in mainstream media.

Key Takeaways:

• The Importance of Genre in Biblical Interpretation – Understanding how identifying the apocalyptic genre of Revelation changes our approach to its symbols and messages.
• Misuse of Revelation in Modern Teaching – How literal and fear-based readings have distorted the book's original intent and impacted Christian doctrine.
• Critical Analysis of the "He Gets Us" Campaign – Discussing the effectiveness and implications of mainstream advertising in conveying Jesus's message.
• Participatory Faith and Wisdom – Emphasizing the need for active engagement and wrestling with Scripture to fully live into the wisdom it offers.

Resources Mentioned:

• He Gets Us Campaign – hegetsus.com
• Shane Claiborne's Advocacy Against the Death Penalty – shaneclaiborne.com
• Jared Byas's Book: "Love Matters More" – Buy on Amazon
• Gregory Beale's Commentary on Revelation – Buy on Amazon

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