Azeem Azhar's Exponential View

What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?


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Greg Jackson, CEO of Octopus Energy, joins Azeem to discuss the Iberian blackout and how we can create a more stable, flexible, and resilient energy grid for the future. This conversation digs into grid technology, market structures, and the real opportunities of the clean energy transition. 

  • (00:00) Episode trailer 
  • (01:38)  What caused the Iberian blackout? 
  • (04:55)  Managing load in traditional vs renewable grids 
  • (11:57) The role of market incentives 
  • (18:13)  Greg's social experiments within the UK grid 
  • (23:49)  How the "virtual power plant" is becoming a reality 
  • (26:59)  The path to completing the renewable energy transition 
  • (33:15)  Are lobbyists slowing down the transition? 
  • (36:26)  What does the next 5-10 years look like? 
  • (40:42)  Why the name "Octopus?" 

Greg's links:

  • Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/g__j
  • LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/gregsjackson
  • Octopus Energy: https://octopus.energy/

Azeem's links:

  • Substack: https://www.exponentialview.co/
  • Website: https://www.azeemazhar.com/
  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azhar
  • Twitter/X: https://x.com/azeem
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