On this week's episode, I welcome Bob Falconer, Chelsea Odhner, and Jonathan Rose, the co-authors of the new book, Opening the Inner World. We dive into what it means to be both spiritual and plural. If you've ever found yourself wondering how inner work and spiritual seeking overlap, this episode is for you.

We explore:

• What happens when we bring the language of parts into our spiritual lives?

• Can the concept of "Self Energy" connect with notions of divine presence?

• How does the idea of God resonate differently for various people and their inner parts?

• How can IFS be a deeply spiritual path without becoming dogmatic?

• What do we do when belief itself feels like a burden or triggers our inner system?

Favorite Quotes:

• "When people bring in a spiritual experience or a spiritual concept, I don't want to assume that I know what that means for them." —Bob Falconer

• "Sometimes in spiritual direction, a part is the one that's praying. And that prayer needs to be honored and held and heard." —Chelsea Odhner

Find their book here: Opening the Inner World

Episode Sponsor:

This episode is sponsored by Pisgah Coaching Institute. Founded by IFS-trained master coach Brian Jaudon, a pioneer in the integration of IFS and coaching for more than two decades. Brian and his faculty teach a blended methodology for clarifying and living into a vision of any kind. Learn more at pisgahcoaching.com.

About the Guests:

Chelsea Rose Odhner is a lifelong student of Swedenborg's teachings with extensive professional experience synthesizing his ideas. Combined with her work as a bodyworker, and an IFS practitioner and coach, Chelsea adds a unique and informed perspective to integrating IFS therapy with the system of the spiritual world that Swedenborg describes.

Robert Falconer is a dedicated therapist and teacher of the IFS model who has contributed significantly to the field through his research and writings. His work focuses on how our minds are not just multiple, but also porous. He brings this lens to IFS, especially in the context of trauma and spiritual experiences.

Jonathan Rose is a scholar of Emanuel Swedenborg and Neo-Latin translator who has published extensively on Swedenborg's theological and philosophical ideas. He serves as the Series Editor for the New Century Edition of Emanuel Swedenborg's Theological Works. His expertise brings a deep spiritual dimension to the book, offering readers insights into concepts in Swedenborg's spirituality that resonate with IFS.

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