Plus: Forest, Villa and Liverpool’s striker problems

Nottingham Forest returned to Europe with an impressive draw away at Betis, are Forest fans warming to Angeball?

Was Hugo Ekitike stupid or passionate? Do his actions speak to the wider cult of young players, looking for Instagram moments and perhaps thinking less about the team?

After the break Jonathan Northcroft outlines his thoughts on the changing face of modern coaches – one type who wants to be seen as the author or controller of everything and an alternate style which offers more freedom and decision making to players.

And has Unai Emery been strengthened or weakened at Villa?

Gregor Robertson is joined by Martin Samuel and Jonathan Northcroft

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