You don't get paid for time you get paid for skills. In today's economy, average won't cut it. In this episode, I sit down with performance coach Sabastian Enges to break down why the market rewards producers (not consumers), how to build high-value skill sets that print options for your family, and the real triad that scales results: skills, mentality, and character. We get tactical on consultative selling, problem-finding vs. blaming "bad leads," and why communication is the ultimate meta-skill for leaders, salespeople, and anyone who wants influence. If you're serious about leveling up income, impact, and freedom, this conversation is your playbook.

(00:00) Introduction (01:14) Sales & Speaking Equals Energy Transfer (03:27) Growing Up Broke To Learning Sales Early (05:24) First Business at 11: Blackberries & Hustle (07:04) Why Excellence Pays, Mediocrity Doesn't (10:10) People Don't Want Millions, They Want to Consume Them (16:07) Building Phoenix Consulting After 2008 (28:27) Empathy-Driven Selling: Treat People Like Grandma (31:12) Sales Is Communication & Leadership (38:29) Money Buys Options, Not Meaning

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