Matt and Ryan discuss the digital transformation challenges facing legacy media, from shifting to subscription models to embracing email marketing. They explore innovative newsletter growth tactics, AI’s role in democratizing software development, and evolving strategies for software acquisition. They also share how tools can serve as lead magnets, why community-building matters, and how micro ads can unlock new revenue for digital publishers.

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Episode Topics & Timestamps

00:00 The State of Legacy Media Companies

02:51 Challenges in Digital Marketing for Traditional Media

06:04 Innovative Newsletter Strategies for Growth

09:12 Opportunities in Legacy Media Transformation

12:12 The Power of Email Marketing in Subscription Models

14:49 The Future of Digital Products and Marketing Strategies

23:39 The Evolving Landscape of Software Acquisition

28:03 Harnessing AI for Web App Development

33:11 Leveraging Tools as Lead Magnets

38:51 Innovative Monetization Strategies in Newsletters

43:12 Building Community Through Events