Lead to Soar

Why You Must Master the Art of Conversation for Leadership Growth


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In this episode of the Lead to Soar podcast, Michelle Redfern explores the concept of learning conversations and their role in career and leadership development. Michelle shares how mastering the art of these informal but intentional discussions can significantly enhance your leadership journey.


Key Discussion Points:

What are Learning Conversations?

Michelle defines learning conversations as informal, intentional dialogues with someone whose experience can help broaden your perspective. Unlike traditional mentoring, learning conversations are more flexible and less structured, focusing on real-time knowledge sharing and feedback.

Why Learning Conversations Matter for Leaders

Research from Dan Pink emphasizes that asking smart, open-ended questions invites deeper engagement and leads to more meaningful learning experiences. Learning conversations allow leaders to develop cognitive diversity by connecting with people who have different lived experiences. This helps you become a more adaptable and agile leader.

Practical Steps to Initiate Learning Conversations

Michelle shares actionable advice on how to start a learning conversation:

1. Identify your goals or challenges.

2. Reflect on who in your network might offer valuable insights.

3. Frame your request thoughtfully to respect the other person’s time and expertise.

4. Focus on active listening and mutual benefit during the conversation.

The Coffee Experiment

Michelle challenges listeners to try The Coffee Experiment by reaching out to someone in their network for an informal conversation. This simple yet powerful strategy can help you test ideas, seek feedback, and develop deeper professional relationships.

The Role of Confidence in Learning Conversations

Michelle emphasizes that asking for a learning conversation demonstrates leadership qualities such as self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and a willingness to grow. For women in particular, engaging in these conversations is a way to build confidence and navigate workplace challenges.


Resources Mentioned:


Dan Pink’s work on the power of questions in leadership (e.g., To Sell is Human)

Holly Ransom’s Love Mondays newsletter on learning conversations


Actionable Challenge:

This week, try The Coffee Experiment. Reach out to someone in your network for a 30-minute conversation focused on learning from their experience. Frame your request thoughtfully, listen actively, and reflect on what you gain from the conversation.

Join the Conversation:

We’d love to hear how you’re using learning conversations in your leadership journey. Share your experiences with us on the Lead to Soar network or email us directly.

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