With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 187: Pediatric Perspectives: Measles Without Fear with Lawrence Palevsky, M.D.

Title: Measles Without Fear with Lawrence Palevsky, M.D.

Presenters: Dr. Paul, Lawrence Palevsky, M.D.

Length: Approximately 60 minutes

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Web Resources Discussed

• Children’s Health Defense Defender article, March 5, 2025 (referenced in transcript)

• American Academy of Pediatrics statement on vitamin A and measles

• World Health Organization — guidance on vitamin A for measles (referenced)

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Summary

Dr. Paul welcomes back his colleague and pediatrician Dr. Lawrence Palevsky for an in-depth discussion on measles, public health messaging, and vaccine concerns. Together, they explore the history of measles before and after the vaccine, the reality of immunity, and recent events in Texas involving a child’s tragic death. They emphasize the importance of context, critical thinking, and honest assessment of risks. This conversation challenges fear-driven narratives and offers insight into safe, natural approaches to childhood health.

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Key Points (with time stamps)

• 00:00:40 – Dr. Paul’s Intro: Announcement of VAX FACTS book release and ordering details.

• 00:01:35 – Welcome: Dr. Paul introduces Pediatric Perspectives and guest Dr. Lawrence Palevsky.

• 00:02:08 – Dr. Palevsky Joins: Expresses enthusiasm for discussing measles.

• 00:02:42 – Setting the Stage: Dr. Paul outlines current fear-driven messaging about measles.

• 00:02:52 – Historical Perspective: Dr. Palevsky recalls childhood measles and data showing mortality rates had dropped before the 1963 vaccine.

• 00:03:55 – Natural Course of Illness: Dr. Palevsky describes measles as generally benign with good care, nutrition, hydration, and vitamins A, C, and D.

• 00:05:30 – Fear vs. Reality: Dr. Paul notes measles was not feared in his practice or childhood. He expresses greater concern about today’s exaggerated responses.

• 00:06:10 – Full Disclosure: Both doctors clarify they are sharing personal experiences, not medical advice.

• 00:06:53 – Vaccine Myths: Dr. Palevsky critiques misconceptions — that measles is absent without symptoms and that vaccines eliminate the virus.

• 00:07:59 – Waning Immunity: Dr. Paul emphasizes that natural infection gives lifelong protection, while vaccine immunity wanes.

• 00:08:50 – Vaccine Failure: Dr. Palevsky explains that 2–10% of children do