After the spectacle of Brett Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court confirmation hearings, the already deep political divide in the country seems to have calcified. To try to understand where this rancorous political moment came from — and where it might be going — Katie and Brian talk with two experts. First, they welcome back to the show Rebecca Traister, author of the new book Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger. Rebecca explains why she’s so devastated about the new Supreme Court justice, and she reckons with the fact that women have been on both sides of this bitter political debate. Then they turn to Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law expert and Harvard Law professor, for a legal perspective. What will happen to the Supreme Court as an institution, and what does that mean for the American people?

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