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Wonder In an Age of Violence: Valarie Kaur & See No Stranger


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“Wonder is the root of love, the lack of wonder is the root of violence.”

Valarie Kaur is no stranger to violence. As a Sikh, as a woman, as a person of color, violence has shaped both her activism and her deep sense of community care. Her Revolutionary Love Project is the blueprint for organizers, activists, and really - anyone in love with the world and what it could be. 

 

This week, the activist, and best-selling author of See No Stranger joins me to talk about love, action, and the power of wonder in the face of impossible things. 

 

In this episode we cover: 

  • How do you continue to work on behalf of EVERYONE for a more just and beautiful world, when some of those people cause great harm? 
  • Getting outside of unbearable pain so you can survive
  • Do you have to suffer in order to be of service? Being an activist for the long haul
  • “Squad care” and what it means for activists and anyone alive in the world

 

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“I spent the last 20 years organizing my life around hate and I want to spend the next 20 years organizing around love. The pain of the world is the pain of the world, regardless.” - Valarie Kaur

 

Starting this week we’re releasing some of our favorite episodes from all three seasons of the show - some you may have missed, and some you need to listen to again and again just to absorb even more of their goodness.

 

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Related episodes:

The Love-Filled World

A Place Called Home: a conversation with child welfare advocate, David Ambroz

Connection is the best medicine: with Dr. Rana Awdish

 

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About our guest: 

Valarie Kaur is a renowned civil rights leader, lawyer, award-winning filmmaker, educator, author of the #1 LA Times Bestseller See No Stranger: A Memoir and Manifesto of Revolutionary Love, and founder of the Revolutionary Love Project. A daughter of Punjabi Sikh farmers in California, her work has ignited a national movement to reclaim love as a force for justice. Find her on IG @valariekaur.

 

About Megan: 

Psychotherapist Megan Devine is one of today’s leading experts on grief, from life-altering losses to the everyday grief that we don’t call grief. Get the best-selling book on grief in over a decade, It’s Ok that You’re Not OK, wherever you get books. Find Megan @refugeingrief

 

Additional resources:

Valarie Kaur’s website

The Revolutionary Love Learning Hub

 

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Check out Megan’s best-selling books - It’s OK That You're Not OK and How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed

 

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