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Steve Hall, Abel Csabai, and I discuss PEDs and why we would or would not use them.

0:30- Calling out Fake Natty Abel and Steve
1:30- Dieting without refeeds
14:00- Using PEDS
28:00- Why we have a stigma about PEDs
37:15- PEDs potentially bringing passion back
46:30- My previous interest in PEDs
55:00- Would Steve ever consider using TRT again?
1:01:30- Would using PEDs make one happier with their physique?

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