Comedian Zoe Lyons and nurse Sindy De Jong join Catherine Bohart and Sarah Keyworth to discuss "Ageing".

In the relationship programme that goes beyond rom-com tropes, Zoe and Sindy talk about their fourteen years of marriage, falling in love and falling out of vans.

And why you should never storm off during an argument...

Producer: Kate Holland

A Whistledown production for BBC Radio 4

Comedian Joel Dommett and model Hannah Cooper join Catherine Bohart and Sarah Keyworth to discuss "Modern Love".

In the relationship podcast that goes beyond social media filters, Joel and Hannah talk about their marriage, taking out the bins and sliding into the DMs.

And Joel reveals his secret to a happy relationship...

Producer: Kate Holland

A Whistledown production for BBC Radio 4

Comedians and real-life couple Catherine Bohart and Sarah Keyworth introduce a new podcast about what makes relationships work.