Chris discusses the symptomatologic reality that individuals can't manage their anxiety and manage their compulsions: they're either working to keep their anxiety in check, and in so doing they're engaging compulsions; or they're identifying, resisting, and preventing compulsions when they feel anxious, and facing the anxiety head-on. They can't do both; and neither can you.  Feel free to reach out with any questions you might have to [email protected]. And view my recent interview with the Anxiety Commander at (6) OCD Interview with Chris Leins | OCD Treatment Specialist - YouTube. If you've found OCD Straight Talk helpful, feel free to give us a 5-star rating, and support the podcast to help produce more content.