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  • 208: The Secrets of Vertically Integrated Turnkey Real Estate with Liz Nowlin and Terry Kerr

    Turnkey real estate investing isn't always the most lucrative option, but with vertical integration and solid core principles, it can be a long-lasting path to successful real estate investing.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with Liz Nowlin and Terry Kerr of Mid South Homebuyers. Terry is the President, and Liz is the Director of Investor Relations. Mid South is the oldest turnkey provider in the U.S., operating in Memphis, Tennessee, and Little Rock, Arkansas.

    As their conversion begins, Jonathan, Liz, and Terry explore how Liz and Terry met and their entrances into turnkey real estate investing. You'll hear why real estate hasn't changed as much as people think, the importance of keeping tenants happy, and the benefits of having slightly under-market rents. Liz and Terry explain the vertical integration of Mid South Homebuyers, why they keep their properties maintained, and where they source deals. Jonathan, Liz, and Terry discuss the adjustment in the buyer pool, why they maintain a warehouse that stores supplies, and their intent to remain focused on the Memphis and Little Rock markets.

    Liz Nowlin and Terry Kerr's strategy involves keeping tenants happy, and you'll hear how this makes all the difference in their turnkey investing model.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    • Liz Nowlin and Terry Kerr's entrance into turnkey real estate investing
    • Why real estate hasn't changed as much as people think it has
    • The importance of keeping tenants happy
    • Benefits of having slightly under-market rents in place and why they don't charge application fees
    • Vertical integration that allows Liz and Terry to offer a top-notch product
    • Keeping your properties maintained and experiencing the positive ripple effects from that
    • Sourcing deals and what Liz and Terry focus on buying
    • The adjustment in the buyer pool and who their typical investors are
    • Where they source their materials from, why they have a warehouse that houses them, and how they get better pricing with contractors
    • New construction, how that impacts their business model, and why they're focused on Memphis and Little Rock for now
    • Their ideal investor avatar

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    Supporting Resources:

    Mid South Home Buyers - midsouthhomebuyers.com

    Terry Kerr's YouTube channel - www.youtube.com/@Rehab2Riches

    Mid South Home Buyers on Facebook - www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100057060956060

    Connect with Liz Nowlin on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/liz-nowlin-176b2626

    Website - www.streamlined.properties

    YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

    TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene

    Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal

    Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene

    Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

    Email - [email protected]

    Episode Credits

    If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

    56 min
  • 207: Multifamily Real Estate Development Without The Hassle with Justin Goodin

    Many people are looking for a truly passive income–the kind where they can be completely hands-off. Real estate is often very hands-on, but syndications can be the answer for those looking for the hands-off option.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Justin Goodin, founder of Goodin Development. Goodin Development builds premium market-rate communities throughout Indiana and helps busy professionals invest in real estate without the hassle of analyzing properties, managing tenants, or handling repairs.

    Jonathan and Justin start by exploring Justin's first investment, a single-family property, and why single-family assets were a good stepping stone to Justin's career but not his ultimate goal. Justin shares his "sniper" approach to direct marketing campaigns, what it was like to raise capital for the first time, and his tips for vetting a syndication investment. Justin explains his buy box, who his investors are, and why he has no plans to expand his business outside Indiana. Finally, Justin shares the size of the apartments he builds, the tenants' demographics, why syndication may not be right for everyone, and what he learned about construction as a first-time developer.

    Real estate can be as hands-on as you want, but if you're the type of investor who wants to take the passive approach, a syndication could be the way to go.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    • The $44,000 single-family home that got Justin Goodin started in real estate investing in 2017
    • Why single-family assets were a great stepping stone but not what he wanted long-term
    • The differences between single-family and multifamily syndications
    • Creating direct marketing campaigns and the "sniper" approach he takes
    • What Justin looked for in his first deal and why that turned out to be a value-add property
    • Raising capital for the first time, what he learned from that process, and how to vet a syndication investment
    • Justin's current buy box and how that can simplify your process
    • Who his investors are, and how he finds land to develop
    • The appeal of remaining in Indiana and creating new developments versus renovating
    • Different sizes of apartments in developments and the demographics of Justin's renters
    • His ideal avatar and why syndication may not be right for everyone
    • Learning construction as a first-time developer and Justin's tips for new investors

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    Supporting Resources:

    Goodin Development - goodindevelopment.com

    Justin Goodin's YouTube channel - www.youtube.com/@JustinGoodin

    Justin on Facebook - www.facebook.com/justin.goodin.16

    Find Justin on Instagram - www.instagram.com/justin.goodin

    Connect with Justin on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/justingoodin

    Website - www.streamlined.properties

    YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

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    Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal

    Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene

    Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

    Email - [email protected]

    Episode Credits

    If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

    47 min
  • 206: How To Navigate International Real Estate Markets with Ladislas Maurice

    Buying properties internationally is one of the least explored versions of real estate investing. Still, today's guest explains why it should be on your radar with changing political environments at home and abroad.

    On today's episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Ladislas Maurice. As the founder of The Wandering Investor, Ladislas is dedicated to helping others navigate global investing. He is an international investor and consultant with experience in nearly 100 countries, has lived in twelve of them, and speaks five languages.

    As Jonathan and Ladislas begin their conversation, Ladislas explains how he was introduced to travel as a kid and why he wanted to implement it into a business model. You'll hear about the lack of real estate data available in emerging markets worldwide, the issues that can arise with money when buying abroad, and how you can mitigate your risk by hiring an attorney specializing in issues with foreign buyers. Ladislas describes his experiences buying in countries like Uzbekistan and Serbia, why he started The Wandering Investor, and how to know which countries are worth investing in. Finally, Ladislas outlines some up-and-coming international markets, why younger generations may look outside the U.S. for real estate opportunities, and the countries on Ladislas's shortlist right now.

    If you're seeking opportunities outside the norm in the U.S., consider looking abroad, as Ladislas Maurice is putting new locations on your radar.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    • How Ladislas Maurice was introduced to travel and real estate as a kid through his father's professor contracts at universities around the world
    • The lack of real estate data available in emerging markets around the world
    • Finding overseas properties and the issues with banking, money, and mortgages in international markets
    • Mitigating risk by hiring an attorney who specializes in issues with foreigners and the variances in regulations
    • Ladislas's experience buying real estate in countries like Uzbekistan and Serbia
    • The catalyst for starting his company, The Wandering Investor
    • Knowing which countries are worth the effort to invest in, managing expectations, and identifying objectives
    • Up and-coming areas for buying real estate internationally
    • Making "home" wherever you are and why younger generations may look outside of the U.S. for opportunity
    • The countries on Ladislas's shortlist

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    Supporting Resources:

    The Wandering Investor - thewanderinginvestor.com

    The Wandering Investor on YouTube - www.youtube.com/channel/UC1EOqi1UVw2Byy8jc-glFMQ

    The Wandering Investor on Facebook - facebook.com/thewanderinginvestor

    Find The Wandering Investor on Instagram - instagram.com/thewanderinginvestor

    Connect with The Wandering Investor on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/company/the-wandering-investor

    The Wandering Investor on Twitter/X - twitter.com/wander_investor

    The Wandering Investor on Telegram - t.me/thewanderinginvestor

    Website - www.streamlined.properties

    YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

    TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene

    Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal

    Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene

    Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

    Email - [email protected]

    Episode Credits

    If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

    52 min
  • 205: Finding Freedom Faster By Flipping Dirt with Ligia and Mike Deaton

    Land is often overlooked as an investment vehicle, but today's guests explain why it could be perfect for you.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with Ligia and Mike Deaton, the founders of Flipping Dirt. Their Flipping Dirt coaching program is designed to help others grow their own real estate ventures, produce mounds of cash flow, and enable a lifestyle transformation.

    Jonathan, Ligia, and Mike discuss the importance of getting your spouse on board in real estate investing. You'll hear how Ligia and Mike broke out of the W2 world to become entrepreneurs, why the simplicity of land drew them to it, and the challenges they faced as they got started. Ligia and Mike explain the importance of maintaining marketable skills as a backup plan, setting expectations for land flipping, and why success can take a while. Finally, you'll hear the unique qualities of land, Ligia and Mike's tips for getting started, why they try to stay below $50,000 for a land purchase, and what makes this asset class so appealing.

    If you feel like real estate is too expensive, you won't want to miss Ligia and Mike Deaton making the case for land investing.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    • Getting on the same page with your spouse for real estate investing and how they broke out of the W2 world as a couple
    • The simplicity of land and the challenges Mike and Ligia Deaton faced
    • The allure of land in cost and ROI
    • Why entrepreneurship wasn't on Ligia's radar as a kid and Mike's exposure to it growing up
    • Maintaining marketable skills as a backup plan
    • The two types of personalities who want to flip land and how Mike and Ligia set their expectations
    • What went wrong with their first deal and why it can take a while to find your success
    • The unique qualities of land and why there is a buyer for every type
    • Mike and Ligia's tips for getting started in land and how they customize plans for their clients
    • The properties they target and why they try to stay below $50,000
    • Land's lack of maintenance, what makes that appealing, and how to market it

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    Supporting Resources:

    Flipping Dirt - flippingdirt.us

    Ligia and Mike Deaton on YouTube - www.youtube.com/@mikeandligia

    Find Ligia and Mike on Facebook - www.facebook.com/mikeandligia

    Ligia and Mike on Instagram - instagram.com/mike_and_ligia

    Connect with Mike Deaton on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbdeaton

    Website - www.streamlined.properties

    YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

    TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene

    Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal

    Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene

    Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

    Email - [email protected]

    Episode Credits

    If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

    53 min
  • 204: Ground-Up Real Estate Development For Investors with Dale Wills

    Most investors don't consider ground-up development when considering new investments. However, it can be a way to provide affordable housing, make a profit, and become an integral part of the community.

    Today's episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing features Dale Wills, owner and founder of Centra Capital Partners. Dale builds entire single-family home communities from tip to tail with his affiliates, partnering with accredited investors. With more than 30 years of experience in the business, Dale has watched it evolve from the days before the Internet to the implementation of technology in nearly every aspect.

    Jonathan and Dale begin their conversation by delving into Dale's first exposure to real estate when he worked in construction at just 18 years old. He shares why he's always been interested in single-family assets, why he thinks foreclosures are ripe for the picking right now, and how he evaluates the markets where he invests. You'll hear why money is made at the buy, the process Dale uses for locating land for development, and the job loss that caused him to start his own company. Jonathan and Dale explore how to create affordable housing, the challenges Dale faces in finding a solution, and the appeal of brand-new homes versus pre-built ones. Finally, they share where the greatest opportunity is to make a difference while working as an investor.

    Dale Wills is committed to providing affordable housing opportunities in the communities in which he invests. He offers a compelling argument for why this works well for both investors and buyers.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    • Dale Wills's first exposure to real estate at 18 years old when he was working in construction
    • His interest in the single-family asset class and when he purchased his first property
    • Why Dale is recommending people go after foreclosures right now
    • The markets where Dale is investing and the criteria he uses to evaluate them
    • Making money at the buy and why every deal has risk
    • Locating land and properties for development and redevelopment
    • What prompted Dale to build his own real estate business following a job loss and the biggest changes he's seen over the years
    • Creating affordable housing and the challenges Dale's company is facing to find a solution
    • The difference between building rentals and homes for sale
    • Why Dale doesn't use model homes and the appeal behind a new home
    • Where the greatest opportunity is to make a difference while investing

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    Supporting Resources:

    Centra Capital Partners - centracapitalpartners.com

    Centra Capital Partners on YouTube - www.youtube.com/@CentraCapitalPartners

    Find Centra on Facebook - www.facebook.com/CentraCompanies

    Centra on Instagram - www.instagram.com/centracompanies

    Connect with Centra Companies on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/company/centracompanies

    Centra on Twitter/X - x.com/CentraCompanies

    Find Dale Wills on Twitter/X - x.com/dalerwills

    Connect with Dale on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/dalerwills

    Website - www.streamlined.properties

    YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

    TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene

    Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal

    Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene

    Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

    Email - [email protected]

    Episode Credits

    If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

    48 min
  • 203: How To Start Small And Scale Big In Real Estate with Sayam Ibrahim

    What does the journey to a thousand deals look like?

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan talks mentorship and networking with Sayam Ibrahim of Hero Homes University, where he's in charge of Finance and Funding. Sayam shares his journey from Wall Street to achieving over a thousand real estate deals in Ohio, Florida, Georgia, and Maryland.

    He explains his strategic transition from corporate life to real estate, highlighting the advantages of investing in single-family homes and targeting the middle-income market for flexible exit strategies. Sayam discusses outsourcing renovations to save time and boost profitability. He offers insights into maintaining a steady job for lender appeal while building financial independence and explores financing methods like 'sub two' deals and seller financing.

    Sayam and Jonathan emphasize the significance of networking and building a strong team, showcasing how Sayam scaled his business from a single property in Newark to starting larger projects in cities like Atlanta.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    • Sayam Ibrahim's transition from Wall Street to real estate investing.
    • How he got to over a thousand successful residential and commercial property deals completed.
    • Why Sayam suggests staying at your job until you have several deals under your belt.
    • Preference for single-family homes due to liquidity.
    • Targeting middle-income markets for flexible exit strategies.
    • The importance of outsourcing renovations to professionals.
    • Building a robust network and dedicated team for scaling.
    • Condo conversions as a lucrative strategy.
    • Role of mentorship and community in real estate success.
    • Emphasis on networking and collaboration in real estate.

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    Supporting Resources:

    Hero Homes University - www.herohomesu.net

    Sayam's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/people/Sayam-Ibrahim/1414467/

    Sayam Ibrahim on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/iam.sayam/

    Website - www.streamlined.properties

    YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

    TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene

    Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal

    Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene

    Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

    Email - [email protected]

    Episode Credits

    If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

    55 min
  • 202: Perfecting Short-Term Rental Management and Acquisition with Luke Carl

    Doing short-term rentals well can be difficult, but today's guest on the podcast proves why they don't have to be over-the-top to create a great guest experience while producing an impressive income stream.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with Luke Carl, co-founder of The Short Term Shop. Luke is also the education and self-management specialist for The Short Term Shop. He is the host of the podcast Short Term Rental Management. The Short Term Shop is a team at eXp where you can buy, sell, and learn short-term rentals with their local experts across 20 markets.

    Jonathan and Luke begin their conversation by exploring how Luke got into real estate by way of a 25% stake in a bar in New York City. He explains what he learned about networking and relationships from that experience and how he tried multiple real estate types before settling on short-term rentals. Luke outlines what he liked about the Great Smoky Mountains after trying rentals out in Nashville, the importance of being a good landlord with a vested interest in your tenants and community, and what appeals to visitors about short-term rentals. You'll hear what's behind the increasing amenities they offer, why it isn't for every investor, and why price-per-night still matters. Finally, Luke reveals the importance of the property's description and the photos' accuracy to ensure a satisfying guest experience.

    Luke Carl has a wealth of experience in both networking and short-term rentals, which he is eager to share with others and help them carve a path to success.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    • How Luke Carl fell into real estate in his 30s alongside a 25% stake in a bar
    • What the bar business taught Luke about networking and relationships
    • His path to short-term rentals after trying multiple other avenues and why he ultimately honed in on the Great Smoky Mountains
    • The importance of being a good landlord with a vested interest in your tenants and community
    • The appeal behind short-term rentals for visitors and the increasing amenities they offer
    • Why price-per-night still matters, and short-term isn't for every investor
    • The importance of the description and the photos matching the property expectations

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    Supporting Resources:

    The Short Term Shop - theshorttermshop.com

    The Short Term Shop on YouTube - www.youtube.com/@TheShortTermShop

    Find The Short Term Shop on Facebook - www.facebook.com/theshorttermshop

    Connect with The Short Term Shop on Instagram - www.instagram.com/theshorttermshop

    STS Plus - stsplus.com

    Website - www.streamlined.properties

    YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

    TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene

    Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal

    Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene

    Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

    Email - [email protected]

    Episode Credits

    If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

    47 min
  • 201: Using Multifamily Real Estate To Maximize Risk-Adjusted Returns with Ken Gee

    Single-family and duplex homes aren't everyone's cup of tea, so sometimes it makes sense to jump into multifamily right from the start. Today's guest took that path and never looked back.

    On today's Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan dives into multifamily investing with Ken Gee. Ken is the Founder and President of KRI Partners, a real estate private equity and investor education firm. Ken has more than 26 years of experience in real estate and is a former CPA, commercial lender, and real estate broker.

    Jonathan and Ken start their discussion by exploring Ken's worst period in real estate and why it was awful. Ken shares his background as a commercial lender who became a CPA and what eventually led him into real estate. You'll hear why he kept his W2 before jumping into real estate full-time, his reasoning for moving toward multifamily right from the start, and the importance of approaching your real estate portfolio like a business. Ken shares his four rules for buying multifamily properties, why he's focused on the Southeast instead of Cleveland now, and why transitioning into real estate full-time doesn't have to be difficult.

    With Ken Gee's lengthy experience in real estate, he has a lot of wisdom to share with new and experienced investors alike.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    • The most challenging time in real estate investing Ken Gee experienced and how his business survived
    • Ken's previous career as a lender and CPA and how he began investing
    • The importance of maintaining a W2 position as you build your portfolio
    • The trap many people fall into and the struggles they face when they move into multifamily
    • Why Ken started buying multifamily properties and skipped over singles and doubles
    • Approaching your portfolio like a business, which leads to greater success
    • Making the case for multifamily as opposed to other asset classes
    • Ken's four rules for buying multifamily properties
    • Where he's focusing his business now after spending many years in Cleveland
    • The new focus on renting versus buying and the number of units Ken likes to stay above
    • Why transitioning into full-time real estate doesn't have to be rough

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    Supporting Resources:

    KRI Partners website - www.kripartners.com

    Ken Gee on YouTube- youtube.com/@KenGee_KRI

    Find Ken on Facebook - www.facebook.com/people/Ken-Gee-KRI/100086519510719

    Ken Gee's Instagram - www.instagram.com/kengee_KRI

    Connect with Ken on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/geekennetha

    Ken's Twitter/X - twitter.com/kengee_kri

    Find Ken on TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@ken_gee_kri

    Website - www.streamlined.properties

    YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

    Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

    TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene

    Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal

    Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene

    Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

    Email - [email protected]

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    53 min
  • 200: How The U.S. Election Could Affect Real Estate Investing in 2025 with Dave Meyer

    The U.S. presidential election is over, and many real estate investors wonder how it will impact their portfolios. Today's guest is a real estate expert who goes deep into how the election can affect you in the near future.

    Jonathan welcomes Dave Meyer back to the show on today's 200th episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing. Dave is the Head of Real Estate investing at BiggerPockets and hosts the BiggerPockets Real Estate Investing podcast and the BiggerPockets On The Market podcast.

    Jonathan and Dave start their conversation by delving into Dave's thoughts on how the U.S. presidential election could impact real estate and why Dave is telling investors to wait and see what happens in the first few months of the new administration. You'll hear the effect of interest rates on the housing shortage, how weather can impact where you invest, and the importance of affordability and mitigating risk. Dave shares the importance of building a strategy that fits your business vision, knowing when it's time to sell and reallocate, and why it may be time to change your views on owning a home versus renting. Finally, Jonathan and Dave tackle the appeal of house hacking, how its popularity has impacted returns, the difference between retiring and creating time freedom, and where Dave thinks the market will go in the next year.

    Economic concerns always arise with a presidential election, especially in real estate, and Dave Meyer explains why the "wait and see" tactic is best for investors.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    • Dave Meyer's thoughts on how the U.S. presidential election may impact the real estate market
    • Why Dave is telling investors to wait and see what actually happens in the first few months following the inauguration but remain open to opportunities
    • The effect of interest rates on the housing shortage
    • Focusing on your assets and how weather can impact where to invest
    • The importance of affordability and investing in syndications to mitigate risk
    • Building a strategy that fits your vision and deciding the type of business you want to run
    • Optimizing your portfolio and evaluating when to reallocate
    • Changing your views of owning a home versus renting one
    • House hacking's appeal and why it isn't earning the way it used to
    • The difference between retirement and time freedom and building the portfolio that supports your goals
    • Where Dave sees the market going in the next year

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    Dave Meyer on Instagram - www.instagram.com/thedatadeli

    Connect with Dave on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/dave-meyer-5660846

    The Real Estate Podcast - www.biggerpockets.com/podcasts/real-estate

    On The Market Podcast - www.biggerpockets.com/podcasts/on-the-market

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    59 min
  • 199: From Scratch To Success Through Local Homebuying with Ray Glymph

    Sometimes, becoming an accidental landlord can be the best thing to happen to a would-be investor. Today's guest experienced exactly that, leading to a successful real estate investing career.

    On today's episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Ray Glymph, a real estate investor and mentor who started with nothing and transformed his passion for real estate and investing into over 100 doors. Ray also runs a mentorship program to help others do the same.

    As Jonathan and Ray start their conversation, they explore Ray's accidental entry into real estate investing. Ray shares what happened with his first investing property purchase, his mistakes, and what it taught him about real estate investing. You'll hear how investors can help improve neighborhoods and increase returns over time, the importance of knowing your end client, and why it pays to be local. Ray shares how he negotiates and works with contractors, what he likes about the West Virginia, Ohio, and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, area, the upsides to gentrification, and the importance of staying on top of what's going on with your property while preparing for future expenses.

    Ray Glymph's start-from-scratch story is inspiring, and his passion for helping others succeed shines through.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    • Ray Glymph's entry into real estate investing as an accidental investor
    • His first investment property purchase, the mistakes he made with it, and what Ray learned from that experience
    • How investors can help improve neighborhoods and increase their returns
    • The importance of knowing who your end client is, the competitive advantage of being local, and the power of networking
    • Becoming the problem solver in your community and creating great off-market deals
    • Understanding your costs as a new investor in a new neighborhood
    • Negotiating with contractors to get a better price and hanging on to the good ones
    • What Ray likes about the West Virginia, Ohio, and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania markets
    • Gentrification and the positive impact landlords can make
    • Being aware of what's going on with your property and preparing for the future
    • What's on the horizon for Ray's business

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    If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/199/ to download it.

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    Ray Glymph's YouTube channel - www.youtube.com/@RayGlymph

    Ray's Instagram - www.instagram.com/rayglymph

    Connect with Ray Glymph on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/rayglymph

    Real Estate Inner Circle - www.skool.com/real-estate-inner-circle-7661/about

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    Email - [email protected]

    Episode Credits

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    52 min

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