In this conversation with Joel Salatin we chat about the changes to farming and what this means for the environment of not only the land but our bodies. We explore how the average person is still under this delusion that food should be someone else's responsibility until they're actually ready to eat it. And look at the real nutritional, potentially emotional and physical differences between grass-fed and finished, and grain-fed meat. As Joel says, "If you are what you eat, you also are what you eat, eats."

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"The magical, marvellous thing about food on our plate is the sustenance we absorb has a story to tell, it has a journey, leaves a footprint. It leaves a legacy…. to eat with reckless abandon, without conscience and without knowledge, well folks, this ain't normal." And that quote is from Joel Salatin's book, "Folks, This Ain't Normal."

Joel is arguably the world's most famous farmer, the farm is called Polyface Farm and he goes around the world lecturing to people about an alternative way to farming.

We hear a lot about the carbon economy, and climate change, and carbon in the atmosphere. And a lot of people actually do go vegan, for ethical reasons about cruelty to animals and environmental stress, water use and the resources that go into factory farming. But a lot of people don't realize that a big part of the answer to these problems: carbon sequestration, climate change, ethical growing of food and reducing environmental stress actually occur on the farm.

If you eat food, you have an important part to play for your own health and the health of the planet. The two are inseparable. And Joel Salatin provides the everyday city dweller 3 very simple things that we can do in this enlightening and empowering chat.

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Dr. Ron Ehrlich:                   Hello and welcome to Unstress. I'm Dr. Ron Ehrlich. So, the average person is still under this delusion that food should be someone else's responsibility until they're actually ready to eat it. "The magical, marvellous thing about food on our plate is the sustenance we absorb, has a story to tell, it has a journey, leaves a footprint. It leaves a legacy…. to eat with reckless abandon, without conscience and without knowledge, well folks, this ain't normal." And that quote is from Joel Salatin's book, "Folks, This Ain't Normal." He’s arguably the world's most famous farmer, the farm is called Polyface Farm, he goes around the world lecturing to people about an alternative way to farming. And now we hear a lot about the carbon economy, and climate change, and carbon in the atmosphere and all of this. And a lot of people actually do go vegan as well, for ethical reasons about cruelty to animals and environmental stress, water and the resources that go into this factory farming. But a lot of people don't realize that a big part of the answer to both of these problems: carbon sequestration, ethical growing of food and reducing environmental stress actually occur on the farm. That's a very positive connection, which I'm going talk to my guest, Joel Salatin all about. It's such a great conversation, I could talk to Joel for hours, I almost did, and I hope you enjoy this chat that I had with Joel Salatin.

Welcome to the show, Joel.

Joel Salatin:                           Thank you, it's great to be with you Ron.

Dr. Ron Ehrlich:                   Joel, I am a dentist and I don't know how many dentists in the world have your book "Folks, this ain't Normal," in their waiting room for sale, but I'm one of them. I love what you're doing, obviously, we were so impressed by what you're doing, and we're gonna go into that. But I was wondering if you could share with our listeners, what is going on in our food system now? How is the majority of our food grown today?

Joel Salatin:                           Well, the majority of our food is grown from kinda a philosophical under-pining that is fundamentally mechanical...