If you follow Phil, the founder, and creator of Dive Bar Nutrition on Instagram- you might have the perception that he is a super crazy, off-the-wall guy who loves making freaking delicious protein bars. But in the first 5 minutes of our conversation with him, we realized he is so much more than his Dive Bar persona. He is a highly intelligent, educated *professor* who has overcome it ALL to create the life he always knew he could live.

Phil is not a bariatric patient, but his heart and soul live to support people who are seeking to live their best lives. His personal background of substance abuse left him empty but knowing there was more in store for him. He overcame his vices and pursued an education in nutrition and exercise science, becoming a legit *professor* and now the owner of a nutritional supplement company that has a fierce following of devoted fans- East2West_WLS included!

Phil is a master at identifying what is holding people back, helping them overcome their vices, and charting a path towards lasting health. I am not going to lie...this conversation wanders. But it wanders because each time he answered one of our questions, a whole new village of insight and knowledge was presented to us...how could we NOT stop at every village along the way?

If you are struggling to overcome a vice, or are working hard to keep one in check, this episode is for YOU!

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