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#112: Thomas Frank – Getting nerdy about YouTube and why he created a second channel


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Thomas is a YouTuber, podcaster, and author who helps people become more capable and productive. His main YouTube channel has nearly 2.5 million subscribers and more than 160 million views! 

In 2020, Thomas began producing a lot of content about how to use Notion, a popular project management and note-taking software. But instead of publishing those videos on his existing channel, Thomas created a SECOND channel called Thomas Frank Explains, which itself already has nearly 80K subscribers and almost 3 million views.

So in this episode, we talk about Thomas’s YouTube journey, why he built a second channel for his Notion content, how he’s thinking about short-form video like Shorts, and how intentional he is about all of the details that go into building his business.

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TIMESTAMPS

00:17 - Today’s guest

01:01 - When Thomas took YouTube seriously

01:49 - Thomas’s early inspiration

02:38 - What we learn today

03:39 - YouTube vs Wistia

05:27 - Why don’t Thomas’s old videos suck?

06:36 - The “true” start of Thomas Frank

07:14 - Using Reddit to grow on YouTube

08:23 - Thomas goes viral

10:26 - What changed after the viral video?

11:41 - How Thomas was making money to focus on YouTube

12:32 - Thomas didn’t turn on AdSense until 100k subs

15:40 - Creator self-doubt

16:53 - Thomas’s approach to criticism

18:09 - What took 2200 subs to 2.5 million

19:25 - Importance of platform discoverability

21:35 - YouTube podcasts

22:15 - How does Thomas think about his business today?

23:13 - The Notion Arc

26:18 - AdSense + Brand Deals vs Direct Monetization

31:18 - Why make a second YouTube channel?

32:58 - What’s the plan for the main channel?

34:41 - How does the YouTube algorithm work?

36:50 - How to think about short form video

39:20 - Looking at content through the “Jobs to be done” framework

41:39 - Why Thomas makes everything FREE

45:45 - Thomas’s skillshare hack

48:50 - Team Thomas Frank

51:15 - Every creator should hire an editor sooner

52:20 - Art vs Ego

53:19 - What is currently frustrating Thomas Frank?

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