This is our unabridged interview with David Brooks.

“We’re in the middle of some sort of social crisis,” says New York Times columnist and bestselling author David Brooks.

Politics and social discourse have become brutal. Loneliness, hopelessness, and suicide rates have been measured at all-time highs. Trust and friendship have been measured at all-time lows. But all is not lost, according to David. There is still a way forward, and it’s simpler than one might think.

“The essential moral act is the act of attention,” he says. “Our goal should be to cast a just and loving attention on others.” In this episode, he discusses his new book, “How to Know a Person: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen,” and how truly knowing others calls forth a better version of both oneself and one’s community.

A warning: this episode contains mention of suicide. If you or someone you know is in crisis, contact the Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255.

Show Notes

Similar episodes:

David Brooks: The Road to Character

Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation

Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection

Curt Thompson: The Power Of Being Seen

Resources mentioned this episode

How to Know a Person by David Brooks

The Sovereignty of Good by Iris Murdoch

PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

Transcript for Abridged Episode

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