The episode was first published on the Swedish podcast Fasciaguiden on June 5, 2025.

In this thought-provoking conversation, we meet Dr. Neil Theise — liver pathologist, fascia researcher, and author of Notes on Complexity.

This is more than an interview; it’s a journey through science, philosophy, and the very structure of life itself. Together with Axel, Hans, and Per Johansson, Theise explores what fascia really is, how the body can be understood as a self-organizing complex system, and why our views on medicine, science, and consciousness may need to change at the deepest level.

We talk about the body’s boundaries, energy flows, electromagnetic fields, quantum physics, relationships, and how consciousness may be much more than just a product of the brain. Theise explains why fascia can be seen as an interface connecting the body’s different levels — and why complementarity, rather than opposition, is the key to understanding both the body and the world.

An episode that touches both heart and mind — and perhaps something even greater.

Participants in this episode: Axel Bohlin, Hans Bohlin, and Neil Theise.