In this episode Dr. Perry has a chat with Chris DaPrato DPT, SCS, CSCS, PES, MFDc the lead instructor and innovator of Integrative Movement Health

We discuss the science and applications of cupping in helping pain. There are a lot of myths out there about cupping and Dr. DaPrato sets the record straight. If you have ever wondered if cupping is a theraputic option for you, this is the episode you do not want to miss.

Some of the highlights.

• Movement matters — it's not just passive suction Dr. DaPrato emphasises that MFD is distinct from traditional passive cupping because it combines negative-pressure suction with active movement or loading.

• Fascial shear, glide and viscoelasticity are key targets Chris explains improving the sliding/ gliding surfaces of fascia, increasing viscoelastic properties and thereby enhancing mobility and tissue responsiveness

• Cups can be used as neurosensory tools not just mechanical tools One of his points: the cups provide sensory input — mechanoreceptor stimulation, nervous system modulation, proprioceptive feedback — which can influence movement patterns and motor control.

Dr. DaPrato currently treats professional and NCAA athletes at UC San Francisco and UC Berkeley, while teaching in the Orthopedic Residency for their School of Medicine. He is a strong proponent and educator for manual therapy in sports and has presented evidence informed practices at conferences both nationally and internationally. After receiving his BS in Human Physiology, his Masters in Physical Therapy from Long Beach, and his Doctorate from Temple University, he went on to become Board Certified in Sports through the APTA.

Learn more on his website at CUPTHERAPY

In this episode of the Stop Chasing Pain Mini-Podcast Dr. Perry reviews eight of the most important places you need to release in the hands in the feet to help chronic pain and efficient movement. One of the most powerful things you can do for self-care.

Try these resets every day for 30 days and discover it for yourself.

Links to 8-Evil Reset Videos Below

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Foot Evils YouTube

Back for another episode is our great friend Robert Gourlay of Mea Water going even more in depth on the healing power of water. Make sure you check out our previous episode with Robert and the link below the show notes.

Water is far more than H₂O — it's a living, dynamic system of information and energy. In this episode, Dr. Perry sits down with Robert Gourlay, founder of Mea Water, to explore the science and mystery of structured and energy water — how it forms, how it interacts with the human body, and why its organization might be the missing link in healing, hydration, and cellular communication.

Robert shares decades of research on how water holds memory, responds to energy fields, and connects all biological systems. You'll learn how structured water supports the body's natural bioelectrical flow, enhances lymphatic and mitochondrial function, and restores coherence to the fluid network of life — your internal Body Aquarium.

This conversation will change how you see water forever.

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In this episode, Dr. Perry discusses the connection between the nervous system and the immune system and how they relate to each other in relationship to chronic pain and chronic inflammation.

Fluid systems always connect to each other. Change the name and change sizes it doesn't matter. They all connect. See why this matters in healing

Blood. Lymph. Cerebrospinal fluid. Interstitial fluid.

On this episode of the Stop Chasing Pain Podcast, Dr. Perry Nickelston sits down with Dr. Nasha Winters, a global thought leader in integrative oncology and author of The Metabolic Approach to Cancer. Together, they dive into the revolutionary framework Dr. Winters has developed to help patients and practitioners alike rethink cancer care.

This conversation explores how metabolic health, bio-individualized therapies, and the power of nutrition can shift the way we approach prevention, treatment, and long-term healing.

Highlights from Dr. Winters' book include:

• How cancer is not just a genetic disease but a metabolic one, deeply tied to cellular energy and mitochondrial function.

• The role of the ketogenic diet and therapeutic nutrition in starving cancer cells while nourishing healthy tissues.

• The impact of toxin exposure and why reducing environmental and lifestyle stressors is key to healing.

• The importance of balancing the terrain—hormones, inflammation, immune function, microbiome, and emotional resilience.

• Using bio-individualized therapies—tailoring interventions to each person's unique biology rather than a one-size-fits-all model.

• Why building metabolic flexibility and resilience isn't just for cancer patients, but a roadmap for all of us who want to live healthier, longer, more vibrant lives.

This episode is a must-listen if you want to understand the future of cancer care through the lens of whole-body healing.

Website for Dr. Winters

Book Purchase here

In this mini podcast episode Dr. Perry talks about how the eyes can make a big difference in chronic pain. The thinking process behind assessing the eyes and learn more about this relationship in our Eye Mojo Webcast coming September.

Because when it comes to pain, everything matters!

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Dr. Emily Splichal returns as a guest to discuss her transformative journey—from conventional surgical training to pioneering sensory-based, functional podiatry—and to introduce her new book, Sensory Sapiens.

In it, she presents a sensory-centric framework for movement that champions the foot (and entire sensory system) as the key to longevity, balance, and injury prevention. Notably, she details how our body's sensory intelligence—specifically through textured stimulation of the feet—enhances balance and proprioception; how foot stimulation supports bone density and even brain health by activating deeper tissues and circulation; how sensory stacking—layering various sensory inputs into movement practices—supercharges rehabilitation and performance; and how everyday contact with gravity as a "sensory hug" grounds and recalibrates both body and nervous system. Sensory Sapiens offers a compelling, research-backed blueprint for anyone wanting to age well and move better, organically and holistically.

Dr. Emily Splichal is a functional podiatrist and human movement specialist who initially trained as a surgeon at Beth Israel Medical Center (NYC) and Mt. Vernon Hospital before shifting in 2017 to a practice grounded in functional and regenerative medicine s

She's founder and CEO of Naboso, a sensory-technology company devoted to awakening the nervous system via the feet—and soon the hands—with textured products and neuro-stimulators. A globally recognized leader in barefoot science, she has educated over 25,000 professionals across 35 countries and created the Barefoot Training Specialist® certification and EBFA Global. She is also the author of Barefoot Strong and now Sensory Sapiens, continuing her mission to help people move better and live longer by reconnecting with their sensory selves.

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The thoracic spine is one of the most overlooked keys to resolving chronic neck and back pain. Acting as the central anchor between the cervical and lumbar regions, it influences posture, breathing, rib motion, and spinal stability.

When the thoracic spine becomes stiff or restricted, the neck and lower back are forced to compensate, often leading to overuse, tension, and pain. Because it's deeply connected to the ribcage and diaphragm, thoracic mobility also affects circulation, lymphatic flow, and nervous system balance.

In other words, if you only treat the painful areas without restoring movement and pressure balance through the thoracic spine, the cycle of chronic pain continues. It's not just a middle piece of the spine—it's the missing link in many healing journeys.

Joint By Joint Video Here

In this episode of the Stop Chasing Pain Podcast, Dr. Perry sits down with integrative rheumatologist, environmental health expert, and author Dr. Aly Cohen to discuss her groundbreaking new book, Detoxify: The Everyday Toxins Harming Your Immune System and How to Defend Against Them.

Dr. Cohen reveals the hidden chemicals lurking in our homes, food, water, and personal care products — and how they quietly sabotage our immune health, hormones, and overall vitality. More importantly, she shares practical, evidence-based strategies you can start using right now to reduce your toxic load and protect yourself and your family.

If you've ever wondered how everyday exposures affect your body's ability to heal — and what you can actually do about it — this conversation will empower you with knowledge, tools, and hope.

What You'll Learn in This Episode:

• The most common (and surprising) everyday toxins impacting your health

• How environmental chemicals can drive inflammation and chronic illness

• The connection between toxin exposure and immune system dysfunction

• Simple, realistic steps to detox your home, diet, and lifestyle

• Why small changes make a big difference over time

Your health isn't just about what you add — it's about what you remove. Get ready to take control of your environment and reclaim your wellness.

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