What happens when we stop trying to be who we think we should be, and start showing up as we are?

In this honest and thoughtful conversation, Barb sits down with Dan Wingard, real estate leader, business coach, and musician, to explore his personal journey from performance and perfectionism to presence and authenticity.

Dan shares candidly about the evolution of his leadership, his marriage of nearly 30 years, and the internal shifts that helped him let go of the pressure to prove, perform, or have it all figured out. They talk about the trap of self-improvement, the myth of “finding your purpose,” and the freedom that comes when we appreciate where we are, rather than chasing who we think we should be.

This episode is a meaningful reflection on presence, honesty, and what it means to live and lead with more connection, creativity, and peace of mind.

• [00:00] - Introduction and Personal Growth
• [04:20] - The Importance of Presence in Leadership
• [07:19] - Authenticity vs. Perception
• [10:18] - Navigating Challenges in Leadership
• [13:25] - Embracing Vulnerability and Realness
• [16:12] - Transformations in the Real Estate Business
• [19:06] - Exploring Emotions and Mindset
• [22:11] - The Role of Music and Creativity
• [25:11] - Finding Purpose in the Present
• [28:15] - Appreciating the Journey
• [31:16] - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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