Do you struggle with feeling like your happiness lives ‘out there’ in the future – in the next partner, the next job, the next milestone?
In this episode of the Healing + Human Potential Podcast, I sit down with Dr. Judith Joseph, a renowned psychiatrist and researcher, to explore the difference between the happiness we chase and the joy we cultivate. Together, we unpack why so many high performers confuse burnout with depression — and how to rediscover a grounded, internally sourced sense of aliveness.
Dr. Joseph shares the subtle signs of high-functioning depression, how unprocessed trauma can hide beneath busyness, and practical ways to reconnect with yourself. You’ll learn her Five V’s framework — Validate, Vent, Values, Vitals, and Vision — plus the 5-4-3-2-1 sensory practice to return to the present moment and healthy ways to release emotion without “trauma dumping.”
We also dive into her latest research on joy in the digital age — including why two weeks without a smartphone can lift mood as powerfully as an antidepressant. You’ll walk away with simple, science-backed tools to reset your nervous system, protect your mental health, and design your own blueprint for lasting joy and wellbeing.
0:00 – 1:20 Setting the frame: Why we chase happiness externally and how science tallies “points of joy.”
1:20 – 3:40 Joy vs. happiness: cultivating an internal resource for resilience (presence over postponement).
3:40 – 6:20 Burnout or depression? The stigma, the “always on” brain, and signs of high-functioning depression.
6:20 – 8:05 Inner restlessness, anhedonia, and why “I can’t relax” persists even away from stressors.
8:05 – 10:15 The 5-4-3-2-1 practice: a sensory ritual to reclaim presence (mindful eating, savoring, connection).
10:15 – 12:05 Make it routine: how predictability settles your nervous system (Dr. Judith’s coffee ritual).
12:05 – 14:30 “Pathologically productive:” succeeding on paper, suffering in silence — a 2020 wake-up call.
14:30 – 16:35 Why prevention matters: studying high-functioning depression before a full breakdown.
16:35 – 18:30 Not all trauma is “capital-T”: neglect, scarcity, and the invisible experiences that shape us.
18:30 – 21:05 Scarcity trauma vs. scarcity mindset: epigenetics, inherited behaviors, and overworking on autopilot.
21:05 – 23:00 Distinguishing love of learning from fear-driven achievement; checking the operating system.
23:00 – 25:10 The Five V’s (part 1): Validate (name what’s true) and Vent (without trauma dumping).
25:10 – 27:00 Healthy venting: emotional consent, reciprocity, journaling, prayer, and crying (90-second waves).
27:00 – 28:40 The Five V’s (part 2): Values—prioritizing the priceless over the performative.
28:40 – 30:35 Collective & vicarious trauma: protecting your brain in a 24/7 news cycle.
30:35 – 32:10 RESET method: Realize, Educate, Strategy, Expectations, Thoughtfulness (boundaries with tech).
32:10 – 34:10 Smartphones & joy: why a “flip-phone fortnight” can feel like an antidepressant (more sleep, nature, connection).
34:10 – 35:10 The self-scrutiny trap: always seeing our own face, rising criticism, and lost social joy.
35:10 – 36:30 Digital age sanity: sleep hygiene, light exposure, and device boundaries that restore your brain.
36:30 – 37:35 “Understand the science of your happiness”: mapping your bio-psycho-social fingerprint.
37:35 – 39:00 The Five V’s (part 3): Vision—plan your joy and celebrate small wins daily.
39:00 – 40:00 Closing: Joy heals communities; permission to feel good now + where to connect with Dr. Judith.
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Want to go deeper on healing trauma? Watch this recent episode with Gabby Bernstein on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oih4wNFchEk
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Dr. Judith Joseph, M.D., M.B.A., is a board-certified psychiatrist, Chair of the Women in Medicine Initiative at Columbia University Vagelos, and clinical assistant professor of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry at NYU Langone.
As principal investigator at Manhattan Behavioral Medicine, she has led 100+ clinical studies across the lifespan. She conducted the first peer-reviewed study on high-functioning depression and authored the national bestseller High Functioning (now in 12+ countries). A 2024–25 awardee (POP SUGAR Black Health Hero, Verywell Mind Top 25, NAACP Mental Health Champion), she’s a MasterClass instructor, frequent media expert (GMA, CNN, Today), and speaker for Google, Meta, TikTok, and YouTube. Dr. Joseph developed the T.I.E.S. method for menopause mental health and serves as a NAMI Ambassador. She trained at Duke and Columbia, with fellowship at NYU.
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Where to stay connected with Dr. Judith Joseph:
https://drjudithjoseph.com/
https://www.instagram.com/drjudithjoseph/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmHQJaOerTsZJfOtiYz4sOg
https://www.tiktok.com/@drjudithjoseph
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