In this conversation with coach and CEO of the Moment Institute, David Drake, we explore how we can be effective, masterful coaches in the context of these times, breadth versus depth, the perception of change versus what creates change, exploring patterns, the five maturities and competence versus mastery. David B. Drake, PhD, is the founder and CEO of the Moment Institute in the San Francisco Bay Area, whose mission is to reinvent learning & development for practitioners and clients to better meet the challenges of our time. He pioneered the field of Narrative Coaching, and he has taught coaching skills to over 10,000 leaders, managers, and professionals. He is the author of over fifty publications on narratives and coaching, including his book “Narrative Coaching; The definitive guide to bringing new stories to life”, co-editor of the SAGE Handbook of Coaching (2016) and a thought leader for the Institute of Coaching at Harvard. Visit coachesrising.com to see our acclaimed online coach trainings and other offerings.