Stage development consultant Christopher joins me to discuss Clare Grave’s Spiral Dynamics. We talk integral consciousness, life conditions, drug use, human emergence, “autistic” learning style, agriculture and the environment, misunderstandings of developmental theory, “centre of gravity” and “cosmic address”, emotional states, and getting out of the postmodern “green” swamp. A very clever one that was mostly over my head! Sorry for the bad sound at times.

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