This is our unabridged interview with Malcolm Gladwell and Tracy K. Smith

 To prepare for family dinners and political conversations this holiday season, two guests offer us new ways of being humble and curious.

 First, well-known thinker and author Malcolm Gladwell reveals why we must learn humility if we are to understand each other. “Humility is a habit,” he says. “Habit is a really important word, because if it's a habit, it means it's something that you have to practice.” Then, former U.S. Poet Laureate Tracy K. Smith offers powerful poems that invite us to acknowledge the full, complex, and beautiful worth of the human beings we encounter.

 In this episode, listen closely for multiple ways we can cultivate humility, be curious, and have compassion despite our disagreements and differences.

 Show Notes

 Resources mentioned this episode:

"The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference" by Malcolm Gladwell

 Similar NSE episodes:

 Malcolm Gladwell: Becoming Malcolm

 Tracy K. Smith and Marie Howe: Poetry as Politics

 Thanksgiving Special: Conversation and Gratitude

 Transcript of Abridged Episode

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