This is our unabridged interview with Mpho Tutu van Furth.

 What does it mean to ask someone for forgiveness? The experience after Apartheid in South Africa has much to teach us.

 “In English, you say, ‘I’m sorry, forgive me.’ It’s all about me” 

 Says Mpho Tutu van Furth, daughter to the late Desmond Tutu.

 But in the South African language of Xhosa

 “You say ndicela uxolo which means ‘I ask for peace’. And that’s a very different thing than ‘forgive me’”

 In this episode, explore the deep impact of apartheid in South Africa, the meaning of true forgiveness, and the profound philosophy of Ubuntu. Discover how Mpho carries on her father's legacy of peace and reconciliation while navigating her own journey as an Episcopalian priest and social activist. This heartfelt and enlightening conversation delves into the courage required to love, forgive, and build a just community.

 Show Notes

 Resources mentioned this episode:

 The Desmond & Leah Tutu Legacy Foundation

 Forgiveness and Reparation: The Healing Journey by Mpho Tutu

 The Book of Forgiving by Desdmond Tutu and Mpho Tutu

 Truth and Reconciliation Commission of South Africa 

 Similar NSE episodes:

 Azim Khamisa: Ending Violence Through Forgiveness

 Forgiving My Mother’s Murderer: Sharon Risher

 Pádraig Ó Tuama: A Poet’s Work in Peace and Reconciliation

 PDF of Lee's Interview Notes

 Transcript of Abridged Episode

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