In this episode, Keltie is joined by her husband, Chris, for a candid discussion about their decision to be childfree, and namely, how choosing childfree has been for Chris as a man. The two of them discuss:

• Chris's personal journey from ambivalence to confidently childfree
• The role of personal and relationship development in their decision-making process, and how they navigated their decision as a couple
• The challenges and potential resentment that can arise if one partner wants children more than the other
• Topics such as societal pressures, financial considerations, and the desire to maintain their current lifestyle
• How societal pressure and expectations around having children are different for men than women, plus Chris's personal experience with nosy questions and naysayers
• Chris's feelings about getting a vasectomy and why he's chosen not to have one
• The love they share for their childfree life together, and how they find and create deeper meaning and fulfillment

As mentioned in the show: Find Christian on: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christianhaefele/ Instagram: instagram.com/chris_ongram/ Episode 10 with Ruby Warrington on Women Without Kids Episodes 5 and 6 where Keltie shares her personal journey to being childfree About Christian: Christian Haefele is a mountain enthusiast, dog lover, and avid traveler who lives in Munich Germany, with his wife, Keltie, and dog, Shira. His hobbies include ultra-trail running, hiking, and stand-up paddle-boarding. When he's not adventuring, Chris loves enjoying a craft beer or two and cooking up delicious vegan dishes. Chris has previously lived in Vancouver, Canada, and he works in tech sales providing digital solutions to Germany's largest retailers. ___ Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you're hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree