This is our unabridged interview with Marisa Franco.

 How important is it to have friends?

 Loneliness has reached epidemic levels in many countries, with research suggesting that it’s harder than ever for us to make and keep friends. And according to Marisa Franco, the issue isn’t trivial. “ Loneliness is as toxic for our bodies as smoking 15 cigarettes a day,” she says. “We are fundamentally social creatures… it's okay that you really want friends.”

 In this episode, she explains why friendship is a crucial aspect of a flourishing life, and gives helpful advice for those looking to make and keep friends.

 Show Notes

 Resources:

 “Platonic” by Marisa Franco

 The US Surgeon General’s Advisory on the Healing Effects of Social Connection and Community

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 PDF of Lee's Interview Notes

 Transcript

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