Why are seasoned PMs, growth leads, and designers ditching games for fintech, wellness, or even dating apps? What do these companies see in game industry vets—and what blind spots do they have?

In this episode, Mishka Katkoff talks with executive headhunter Gerard Miles about one of the most underreported shifts in tech: gaming talent is migrating to the app world.

03:14 Understanding Talent Migration and Skill Sets

12:20 Engagement and User Experience in Apps

18:17 The Future of Gaming and Consumer Apps

31:07 The Evolution of Game Marketing Strategies

37:04 Cultural Differences Between Game and App Industries

56:41 Career Transitioning: From Gaming to Broader App Ecosystem

01:03:47 The Future of Gaming Professionals in Diverse Sectors