In this Deconstructor of Fun podcast, Mishka Katkoff sits down with three of the sharpest minds in growth: Josh Chandley (Wildcard Games), Warren Woodward (Uptick), and Paul Bowen (StreamElements) to dissect the state of user acquisition in 2025.

STATE OF CREATIVES Report: https://tinyurl.com/393d9rum

Chapters:

02:00 Is UA Dead or Just Evolved?

07:00 The Real Impact of IDFA Deprecation

13:00 Time Spent vs Installs: The New Market Reality

18:00 AppLovin: Apex Predator of Ad Tech

27:00 Attribution Fraud and Click Link Hijacking

34:00 Why AppLovin Keeps Winning

39:00 Can Unity’s Vector Compete?

48:00 Unity’s Strategy, PR Games & Technical Hurdles

57:00 Building a Modern Growth Org

01:06:00 Creative Production as the Last Lever

01:13:00 Fake Ads, Clickbait, and Mad Men

01:19:00 Closing Advice for Growth Teams in 2025