Scott talks to Yoga and Dharma teacher Frank Jude Boccio. Frank took refuge in the Dharma after a period of practising with Thich Nhat Hanh in the 1990's. In 2000, he began to study with Korean master Samu Sunim, who ordained Frank as a Dharma Teacher in 2007.

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In this warm and insightful conversation Frank shares about his experiences of 'not-self', how Buddhism helped him to process grief and loss, the importance of honouring the differences as well as the similarities between yoga and Buddhism, and the lively philosophical debates that Buddha could have had with Patanjali.

Frank is the author of 'Mindfulness Yoga: The Awakened Union of Breath, Body, and Mind'as well as a national and international dharma/yoga teacher and lecturer. You can find out more about Frank's work here and also join Franks Empty Mountain Sangha Online Facebook page here.

'Frank Jude Boccio has been a deeply impactful part of my life since I discovered his work. His teachings on how to relate mindfulness to yoga asana and life has been profound for me. This conversation allowed me to lean in to the way he sees practice and life and there is so much here. Yoga, Zen Buddhism, Grief, Nirvana... This conversation is so, so lovely. I hope you enjoy it...'

Scott Johnson - October 2021