Nir Eyal has spent his career studying why people don't do what they know they should. After writing Hooked and Indistractable, he kept getting a strange kind of call: readers who'd read the book, knew the steps, and still didn't do them. That puzzle led him down a six-year research path into the one variable missing from every motivation model: belief. In this conversation, Nir shares the science behind his new NYT bestseller Beyond Belief, and the framework that explains why knowing what to do is never enough.

We go deep on the Motivation Triangle (behavior + benefit + belief), the difference between limiting and liberating beliefs, and why positive thinking and visualization can actually make your goals harder to reach. Nir walks through the turnaround process live—we use my own imposter syndrome as the test case—and you'll hear him demonstrate, in real time, how quickly a belief that feels like a fact can dissolve when you examine it. If belief is the hidden ceiling on your performance as a creator, this episode is the blueprint for raising it.

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TIMESTAMPS

(05:36) The Motivation Triangle

(07:22) Why information is a solved problem

(10:26) Beliefs vs. facts vs. faith

(15:48) Limiting beliefs vs. liberating beliefs

(21:46) The #1 reason people don't achieve goals

(22:59) Why the brain hates changing its mind

(31:31) Inquiry-Based Stress Reduction

(34:27) The turnaround: collecting a portfolio of perspectives

(42:24) Talking to Yourself In the Third Person

(47:24) The Circle of False Promise

(50:00) What athletes actually visualize

(53:51) 'Imposter syndrome' is not a real diagnosis

(56:10) Your labels become your limits

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