Joshua and Ryan talk about trading in our materialistic clinging for transcendent freedom with author, podcaster, and comedian Lisa Lampanelli, and they answer the following questions:

How do you define “humor”? (00:00)

What is the “United States of Avoidance”? (08:26)

When life changes your path, how do you stop clinging to the hope you once had? (14:20)

How do we accept the death of a dream? (15:33)

What do you mean by “daring to suck”? (17:45)

Is it helpful to simply treat our passions as hobbies until they pay the bills? (18:25)

How did Lisa get her start in comedy? (20:18)

When a loved one has passed, how do I honor their final wishes as executor and appropriately distribute the possessions they clung to when they did not leave specific instructions for doing so? (22:46)

How do you stop clinging to the security of a job simply because it pays well? (29:56)

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