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Have you ever had someone use the phrase, “Well, the Bible says…” to correct you? But then they dismiss other things the Bible says with a “yeah, but…” Who we offer our “yeah but” comments to and who we hard line with “the Bible says” reveals more about the one using the phrase than it does the Bible.
Today I talk about why I no longer use the phrase, “The Bible says…” and how it is often a signal of a theology that is static, exclusive, elitist, or abusive. This summarizes some of the things I learned from the last 4 interviews I did. To get there we meander through the historical narrative flow of the old and new testaments. So if you have ever struggled to make sense of what the Bible is saying, and why, it might help to understand the story.
Time Stamps for the Episode:
Time Stamps for the episode:
00:40 Introductions
01:54 I Don’t say, “The Bible Says” anymore
05:38 The Tabernacle Narrative
09:31 Kings and Temples Narrative
12:19 Babylon, Persia, and Greece! Oh My!
16:29 Rome, Herod, and Second Temple
19:41 It’s the end of the world as we know it
22:27 Theology: Our static Temple
27:54 Theology: our elitist and and exclusive Temple
33:02 Theology: our abusive Temple
34:56 LGBTQ+ texts vs Greed, Power, Corruption texts
37:42 Abusive Church Growth Tactics
43:30 The Bible says, says more about you than the Bible
46:52 Tables instead of Temples
52:44 Conclusions
All Music for this episode is provided by Axeltree
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By Dr. Thomas J Rundel
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Have you ever had someone use the phrase, “Well, the Bible says…” to correct you? But then they dismiss other things the Bible says with a “yeah, but…” Who we offer our “yeah but” comments to and who we hard line with “the Bible says” reveals more about the one using the phrase than it does the Bible.
Today I talk about why I no longer use the phrase, “The Bible says…” and how it is often a signal of a theology that is static, exclusive, elitist, or abusive. This summarizes some of the things I learned from the last 4 interviews I did. To get there we meander through the historical narrative flow of the old and new testaments. So if you have ever struggled to make sense of what the Bible is saying, and why, it might help to understand the story.
Time Stamps for the Episode:
Time Stamps for the episode:
00:40 Introductions
01:54 I Don’t say, “The Bible Says” anymore
05:38 The Tabernacle Narrative
09:31 Kings and Temples Narrative
12:19 Babylon, Persia, and Greece! Oh My!
16:29 Rome, Herod, and Second Temple
19:41 It’s the end of the world as we know it
22:27 Theology: Our static Temple
27:54 Theology: our elitist and and exclusive Temple
33:02 Theology: our abusive Temple
34:56 LGBTQ+ texts vs Greed, Power, Corruption texts
37:42 Abusive Church Growth Tactics
43:30 The Bible says, says more about you than the Bible
46:52 Tables instead of Temples
52:44 Conclusions
All Music for this episode is provided by Axeltree
Sponsors
Quoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)
Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off)
Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)
Connect
Find us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/
Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminalliving
Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0ow
Follow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living
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