This episode is a little different because it's a simulcast of my friend Jerry Won's podcast, Dear Asian Americans. He interviewed me on his show and we talked about how I got to where I am today.

We discussed:

• When it became clear to me that I could teach and be the "product"
• What I learned from being in the church world
• Separating a professional and personal identity and the importance of being self aware
• How to keep evolving and staying relevant
• Thinking outside the routine
• The article I wrote on racism after the Atlanta shootings
• And much more.

Listen in for how I developed from a church's music director to personal branding expert, speaker, and author. The point is that everyone's path is not the same. Take advantage of your own skillset and chart a path that makes sense for you.

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If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to Danny Ozment. Find out more at emeraldcitypro.com