In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill takes on some of the toughest challenges law firm owners face today — hiring with confidence, retaining great talent, and knowing when to invest in people versus when to walk away.

From evaluating high-salary candidates to navigating internal disagreements over ambitious hires, this episode offers real-world guidance for leaders who want to build teams that last.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

How to evaluate whether you're paying for potential or proven performance

Why a candidate asking about growth isn’t a red flag — it’s a sign of ambition

How to create a culture of development that retains your best people

If you’ve ever struggled with whether to bet on potential or proven experience — or feared the long-term cost of developing talent that might leave — this conversation is for you.

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Show Notes:

00:00 – Introduction: New Studio, New Format

01:23 – The 3 Types of Decision-Makers: Doubters, Delayers, and Deciders

06:27 – Hiring Dilemma: Pay for Potential or Proven Experience?

10:36 – Time vs. Money: The Real Cost of Training New Talent

11:05 – Navigating Offers: Is Asking About Growth a Red Flag?

13:13 – Choosing the Right Hire: Heart, Intent, and Fit

14:26 – Poaching Problems: When You’re the “Training Ground” Firm

16:06 – Why You Should Still Invest in People (Even if They Leave)

18:11 – Creating Career Paths That Inspire Long-Term Loyalty

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Links & Resources:

Patrick Mahomes

Atlanta Falcons

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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

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