The cards you're dealt matter far less than what you do with your emotions when you pick them up.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Tiffany Michelle, world-class poker player, ESPN commentator, and one of the most recognizable faces in professional poker, to unpack what the game reveals about decision-making, emotional regulation, and how leaders can compete at the highest level. Tiffany brings the mindset of a champion to a conversation about the hidden cost of letting your emotions drive your strategy at the table and in your firm.

Here's what you'll learn:

If you want to stop letting your emotions cost you the hand, this episode is your playbook.

----

Show Notes:

02:17 – Tiffany shares how her grandfather taught her poker as a kid and why competing against her brothers lit a competitive fire that never went out.

05:35 – What actually separates good players from great ones, and why emotion regulation is the skill most people underestimate.

08:53 – Why the best players think 20 levels deep while most are still playing the surface, and how that gap shows up in every high-stakes decision.

13:45 – How to make confident decisions with incomplete information, combining what is automatic, what is analytical, and what is instinctual.

18:14 – Why great results do not always reflect great decisions, and how to reverse-engineer your process instead of just chasing outcomes.

23:07 – Tiffany's 3 Cs framework, Clarity, Competitive Edge, and Calibration, and how to apply them to your career and firm.

28:07 – How she stayed mentally locked in at the 2008 World Series of Poker with 27 players left, a fresh breakup, and $9 million on the line.

31:25 – Decision fatigue unpacked: why the problem is not thinking too much but treating every decision like it deserves the same weight.

42:35 – Looking back at the 2008 main event and the one thing she would have done differently, asking for help sooner.

52:49 – What being a game changer means to Tiffany, and why the biggest wins come from stepping boldly into uncertainty rather than waiting to feel ready.

----

Links & Resources:

----

Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.

----

Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

----

If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:

The room you're in either challenges you to grow or quietly lets you stay the same.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer three listener questions that expose a pattern most law firm owners won't say out loud: the peer groups they're loyal to have stopped challenging them, the leaders they hired aren't being allowed to lead, and the reason their team has gone quiet might be their own doing. This episode is a direct look at how necessary trust and delegation are for scaling your business.

Here's what you'll learn:

Stop surrounding yourself with people who tell you what you want to hear. This episode is your reminder that getting better requires truth, not comfort.

----

09:03 — The first question kicks off a broader conversation about peer groups, truth-seeking, and why surrounding yourself with people who challenge you matters more than staying comfortable in the wrong room.

09:48 — Michael distinguishes love and support, and why the people who tell you what you want to hear are not the same as the people who help you grow.

12:48 — Why Michael's first question to any mentor is always "where am I wrong?" and what that mindset requires you to give up.

14:27 — The conversation turns to hiring and delegation, using a listener's managing partner situation to explore what it really means to bring a leader into your firm and then actually let them lead.

14:41 — Jessica raises the other side of the coin: what if the hire is actually capable and the owner is just getting in the way?

15:21 — Michael and Jessica tackle the "am I the asshole" question about a senior attorney who has gone quiet, and what it signals when talented people stop contributing.

17:38 — Michael reflects on his own evolution as a leader, from signing off on every decision to stepping back, and why the Summit ran better when he got out of the way.

----

Links & Resources:

----

Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com.

----

Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.

----

Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

----

If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:

The most dangerous conversations aren't the ones we have. They're the ones we keep avoiding.

In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Sheila Heen, Harvard Law professor, co-founder of Triad Consulting, and bestselling co-author of Difficult Conversations and Thanks for the Feedback. With over 30 years at the Harvard Negotiation Project, Sheila has spent her career studying why conversations go sideways and what it actually takes to have them well. In this conversation, Michael and Sheila unpack the hidden structure of every difficult conversation, explore why feedback triggers our deepest identity fears, and reveal how the most effective leaders learn to hear what others can't bring themselves to say.

Here's what you'll learn:

If you want to lead at the highest level, you have to be willing to have the conversations everyone else is avoiding.

----

Show Notes:

07:45 — Why negotiation isn't a field, and why that's actually the whole point.

11:37 — How the Difficult Conversations book has evolved over the past 25 years.

18:09 — Why every difficult conversation is actually three separate conversations happening at the same time.

20:07 — The movie theater test: one question that reveals exactly how you handle conflict.

23:38 — The reason starting from your own story almost always backfires, and what to do instead.

29:51 — The one type of feedback leaders give constantly that makes everything worse.

34:44 — Why two people can receive the exact same feedback and have completely different reactions

39:13 — The mistake Sheila made with her three-year-old son that she now uses to teach every leader she works with.

----

Links & Resources:

----

Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.

----

Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

----

If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:

The decisions that felt simple at six figures become exponentially harder at nine.

In this rapid-fire AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle seven of the most common questions from eight and nine-figure law firm owners navigating complexity at scale. From leadership misalignment to founder bottlenecks, this AMMA explores what actually breaks inside growing firms and how to recognize it before it costs you momentum. If you think bigger revenue will just solve all of your firm’s problems, this conversation will change your mind.

Here's what you'll learn:

If your firm is growing, this episode will show you where the real risks are hiding.

----

03:32 – What decisions get harder as firms scale from six to nine figures.

06:28 – How to identify if a challenge is a leadership or systems issue.

08:50 – Why firm owners accidentally become bottlenecks as they grow.

11:00 – The early warning signs that a leadership team is misaligned.

14:43 – What separates teams that look good on paper from teams that can actually scale.

17:07 – What to focus on in your first 90 days as CEO of an eight-figure firm.

20:05 – What winning actually looks like beyond revenue at nine figures.

----

Links & Resources:

----

Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com.

----

Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.

----

Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

----

If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:

Radical respect is the prequel to radical candor. Without it, you won't bother challenging anyone.

In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Kim Scott, author of Radical Candor and Radical Respect, to tackle the workplace dynamics that quietly destroy firm culture. Kim shares how a colleague's feedback on her own book exposed the blind spots she had around bias, prejudice, and bullying in the workplace, ultimately leading her to write Radical Respect. This conversation reveals how leaders accidentally exclude top talent through "oblivious" promotion processes, and why the brilliant jerk who delivers results will ultimately cost you more than they're worth. Kim gives you the exact language to use when things get uncomfortable, so you stop defaulting to silence.

Here's what you'll learn:

It's better to have a hole in your team than an asshole on your team.

----

Show Notes:

03:09 – The feedback from a black woman CEO that made Kim realize what she'd missed.

09:15 – How to know if you're dealing with bias, prejudice, or bullying in the moment.

09:15 – The I, It, You framework for responding to each type of disrespect.

16:14 – Why leaders need to create three types of consequences for bullying behavior.

19:38 – The difference between healthy conflict and repeated bullying that ignores feedback.

20:55 – What it means to be an upstander versus a bystander when you witness bias.

23:46 – Why silence is the default and how to calculate the ROI of speaking up.

26:40 – How to create a shared vocabulary so your team knows what to say when bias happens.

36:06 – How oblivious exclusion shows up in promotion meetings and how to catch it.

----

Links & Resources:

Radical Respect by Kim Scott

Radical Candor by Kim Scott

Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman

Radical Candor Podcast

Bob Sutton

Episode 25. Kim Scott — Radical Candor: How to be a Kickass Boss

----

Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.

----

Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

----

If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:

"If I failed, I wanted it to be 100% my fault."

In this special episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill reflect on 5000 days of building Crisp. They walk through the dark ages of working out of a dental office with $500 and no idea what they were doing, the years of building real infrastructure and systems, the $8 million Game Changers Summit at Mercedes-Benz Stadium that became their moon landing, and the final evolution where Michael removed himself as the bottleneck entirely. This is an unfiltered look at what building a nine-figure company actually requires at each stage: pure grit when you know nothing, relentless focus on brand when everyone's watching, and the discipline to build systems that work without you.

Here's what you'll learn:

5000 days. Zero debt. 100% ownership. Built by people who believed before there was anything to believe in.

----

01:53 – Why 5000 days of Crisp is worth celebrating and the surprise party that almost didn't happen.

09:57 – Why "I can outwork anyone" is a badge of honor early on and a liability later.

14:19 – What Jessica found when she walked into Crisp and why she bulldozed everything she saw.

18:13 – What it actually feels like to cross a million dollars in revenue when you've been grinding for years.

20:01 – The milestone that finally made Crisp feel legitimate and what it meant to be able to offer it.

31:41 – Why the Game Changers Summit was designed to feel like a rock concert, not a legal conference.

43:03 – What it took to pull off a legal conference at Mercedes-Benz Stadium and whether Michael would do it again.

48:49 – What the transition from CEO to owner actually looks like in practice and why it takes so long to get there.

53:25 – Why the value of your business is inversely proportional to its dependency on you.

----

Links & Resources:

----

Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com.

----

Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.

----

Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

----

If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like

You can't delegate your longevity to a system that only gets paid when you're sick.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Dr. Bill Kapp, Chief Medical Officer and co-founder of Fountain Life, to explore the cutting edge of longevity science. Dr. Kapp reveals how creating a comprehensive digital twin with 250 gigabytes of personalized health data can detect fatal conditions 20 to 30 years before symptoms appear, why your family doctor is 17 to 20 years behind the latest technology, and how exponential innovations from gene editing to AI-powered diagnostics are reshaping what's possible for extending your healthspan. This conversation cuts through the influencer noise in the longevity space to focus on data-driven approaches backed by science, not hype.

Here's what you'll learn:

What you don't measure, you can't manage. It's time to become the CEO of your own health.

----

Show Notes:

02:39 – What Fountain Life is and the paradigm shift from symptom-based to proactive care.

12:13 – The comprehensive assessment: what gets measured and why it matters.

16:48 – The real risk of waiting and the airplane maintenance analogy.

20:01 – Genetics versus lifestyle: what's actually in your control.

26:01 – Making longevity technology accessible and what's coming next.

30:34 – Beyond detection: optimizing cellular health, hormones, and mitochondrial function.

41:29 – Longevity escape velocity and whether we can reverse aging in our lifetime.

44:06 – High-performance aging: why 80 doesn't have to mean slowing down.

45:45 – The top 3 takeaways: baseline testing, sleep optimization, and lifting heavy.

----

Links & Resources:

----

Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.

----

Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

----

If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:

Growth doesn't solve problems. It reveals which ones you've been ignoring.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle the leadership challenges that surface as law firms scale. From decision paralysis to team dependencies, this conversation explores why bigger firms face bigger problems and what it takes to lead through them. Michael breaks down the decision-making framework elite CEOs use, why leaders must stop being the bottleneck, and how world-class execution requires being 51% right and moving fast. This episode confronts the uncomfortable truth that your leadership team might look perfect on paper but fail in practice without the right incentives, speed, and simplicity.

Here's what you'll learn:

Growth amplifies your leadership gaps. The question is whether you'll address them or let them cap your ceiling.

----

09:26 – The decision framework elite CEOs use: first-order, second-order, and third-order consequences.

13:54 – The 51% rule: why world-class operators only need to be right half the time to win.

15:20 – Why your leadership team still waits for your approval on everything and the real reason behind the bottleneck.

17:09 – Creating a decision matrix that empowers your team to act without needing you.

19:34 – Why strong individual leaders fail to work as a cohesive team when you scale.

20:12 – Aligning leadership around firm-level metrics that drive collaboration and strategic unity.

----

Links & Resources:

----

Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com.

----

Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.

----

Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

----

If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:

Your heart reveals more about your performance capacity than you think.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Dr. Leah Lagos, clinical psychologist and performance expert, to explore the science of heart rate variability and how a simple breathing practice can transform cognitive performance, emotional regulation, and long-term resilience. From working with elite athletes on the PGA Tour to coaching world leaders and executives, Dr. Lagos breaks down how resonant frequency breathing changes baseline heart rhythms, prevents cognitive fatigue, and allows high performers to make critical decisions without fear. This conversation will equip you with the physiological tools that separate sustained excellence from burnout.

Here's what you'll learn:

Want to improve your performance? Start with your heart.

----

Show Notes:

02:58 – Dr. Leah Lagos explains the science of resonant frequency breathing and how it creates homeostasis in the nervous system.

06:20 – Why comparing your HRV to others is meaningless and what metrics actually matter for performance.

12:06 – How chronic stress compounds over time and shows up reliably in your heart rate variability.

13:36 – The lifestyle factors that tank HRV: alcohol, dehydration, excessive caffeine, and who you spend time with.

17:59 – Why HRV training expands prefrontal lobe bandwidth and prevents cognitive fatigue under pressure.

22:35 – How resonant frequency breathing differs from meditation and produces measurable baseline changes in four weeks.

28:45 – The practical protocol: 15 minutes twice a day, finding your resonant frequency, and committing for ten weeks.

37:35 – The role of vagal tone in connecting heart, gut, and brain for better decision-making and health.

39:25 – Why breathwork is a must-have practice for longevity and sustained excellence, not just recovery.

----

Links & Resources:

----

Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.

----

Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

----

If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:

Confusing great culture with unconditional acceptance is one of the fastest ways to destroy a business.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill challenge the belief that accountability and close relationships can’t coexist. The conversation begins with Michael reflecting on Steve Wynn's philosophy of creativity and how it applies to standing out in saturated markets, then shifts into three critical questions about culture, accountability, and performance. From diagnosing silent culture problems to justifying special privileges for top performers, this episode tackles the hard truths that most leaders avoid. The tightest cultures are built on standards, not sentiment.

Here's what you'll learn:

Unconditional love has no place in business. Unconditional standards do.

----

02:25 – Michael Mogill explains Steve Wynn's definition of creativity as the clash between thesis and antithesis.

03:54 – How the Game Changers Summit became innovative by defying conference expectations rather than matching them.

11:09 – Jessica Mogill shares how skip-level meetings reveal patterns and uncover real culture problems.

13:43 – Why calling your business a family creates unconditional expectations that destroy accountability.

15:45 – How transparency with performance data prevents resentment when underperformers are let go.

17:39 – Why exceptional performers deserve exceptional privileges and how to defend that decision.

18:52 – The NFL veteran principle: special treatment must be earned daily and can be taken away.

----

Links & Resources:

----

Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com.

----

Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.

----

Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

----

If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: