What if your biggest leadership challenge isn’t deciding what to do, but when to do it?

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill shares personal stories and answers listener questions about tough decisions, team feedback, and betting big on your vision. From a solo weekend with his kids to making high-stakes calls at work, Michael pulls back the curtain on how he thinks through pressure, risk, and long-term impact.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

Why speed and decisiveness are only advantages when paired with execution

How to weigh input from others — and still make the final call yourself

What it takes to scale sustainably without losing your mind

You make the decision. Don’t let someone else make it for you.

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Show Notes:

01:58 – Michael’s Core Memory Weekend with the Kids

06:24 – The CEO’s Dilemma: No Clear Right Answers

06:55 – Why Focus Beats Multiple Revenue Streams

10:53 – The Risk of Moving Too Fast — and Too Big

13:04 – Behind the Scenes of Crisp’s Busiest Year

14:18 – Why Execution Matters More Than Ideas

17:16 – Acquisition Anxiety: Growth vs. Culture Clash

21:03 – You Make the Decision — Not Your Team

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Links & Resources:

Die With Zero by Bill Perkins

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Building a values-driven law firm isn’t just the right thing to do — it’s also a winning strategy.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, host Michael Mogill sits down with Eric Chaffin and Roopal Luhana of Chaffin Luhana to explore how they built one of the most respected firms in the country by leading with integrity, empathy, and purpose. Guided by the principle of “doing good by doing right,” they share how a deep commitment to clients and core values has fueled meaningful growth, sparked innovation, and shaped a standout culture in the legal industry.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

Why doing the right thing, even when it’s hard, delivers the greatest long-term ROI

How to build a values-driven culture that attracts the right people and clients

What it takes to stay resilient when the stakes are high and the outcomes are uncertain

Don’t miss this conversation if you want to build a firm that wins with purpose, scales with heart, and never loses sight of what matters most.

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Show Notes:

00:00 – Introduction: How Eric and Roopal built Chaffin Luhana

01:40 – Defining “doing good by doing right” and what it looks like in action

05:00 – Why authenticity is rare — and essential — in legal marketing

06:15 – The most important KPI: Client gratitude

08:15 – How values shape hiring, culture, and internal growth

12:15 – Implementing structure: Traction, processes, and leadership clarity

15:00 – Lessons from loss: Staying true to your principles when it’s hard

18:20 – Navigating emotional investment and long litigation cycles

21:30 – Driving systemic change through impact litigation

25:45 – Final thoughts: Being a game changer through innovation and heart

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Links & Resources:

Chaffin Luhana LLP

Six Sigma

Incorporating Traction 

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What if the best way to build a high-performing team wasn’t through perks or policies, but by telling people the truth?

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, HR consultant, speaker, author, and former Netflix Chief Talent Officer Patty McCord joins Michael Mogill to challenge conventional HR thinking and offer a candid take on what truly drives culture, leadership, and high performance. With decades of experience shaping iconic teams in Silicon Valley, Patty unpacks how honesty, accountability, and experimentation can redefine what it means to build a workplace people are proud to be from, not just at.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

Why retention is the wrong metric for building great teams — and what matters instead

How “telling the truth up front” can eliminate legal issues, improve culture, and drive results

What it takes to create a company where high performers thrive and mediocrity doesn’t survive

If you’re ready to ditch outdated practices, build a team of adults who own their impact, and lead with context instead of control, this episode is your blueprint.

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Show Notes:

00:00 – Introduction: Patty’s Unconventional Path into HR

05:06 – The Call That Changed Everything: Joining Netflix at 2 AM

06:40 – Reinventing Work: Cutting What Doesn’t Matter

08:06 – Creating a Great Place to Be From

12:00 – Building High-Performance Teams with Radical Clarity

17:18 – Problem Solvers vs. Problem Finders

20:14 – Giving Feedback That Drives Growth

27:11 – Metrics That Matter: P&L Over Perks

34:12 – Preparing for the Future: Do You Have the Right Team?

37:04 – Stop Empowering: Teach How the Business Works

38:29 – The Future of Work Is Now

40:15 – Redefining Leadership Through Context

41:22 – Final Thoughts: Stop Doing Stupid Stuff

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Links & Resources:

Powerful: Building a Culture of Freedom and Responsibility by Patty McCord

How Netflix Reinvented HR, HBR Article by Patty McCord

Netflix Culture Deck

“Google Ideological Echo Chamber” memo by James Damore

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In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, author, founder of Entrepreneurs' Organization (EO), and Founder & CEO of Scaling Up, Verne Harnish shares timeless insights on scaling a business, developing high-performing teams, and why most leaders fall short when they lose their edge. From navigating uncertainty to rediscovering founder-mode, Verne challenges the safe, conventional wisdom that holds organizations back — and offers a blueprint for playing bigger, leading smarter, and building companies that endure.

If you're playing not to lose, you're already falling behind — this episode is your call to play to win.

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Show Notes:

00:00 - Introduction

06:00 - Betting on Yourself: The Sacrifices and Mindset of Entrepreneurs

09:19 - Thriving in Chaos: Why Optimism and Timing Matter

14:00 - The Power of Big, Audacious Goals (and Why Small Thinking Fails)

16:42 - Why Most Companies Plateau: The Mindset and Market Gap

20:41 - Rediscovering Founder Mode and the Soul of Your Business

26:46 - Building Teams That Don't Need Managers

31:15 - How AI Will Redefine Growth, Strategy, and Hiring

36:40 - Redefining Success: The Five F's That Really Matter

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Links & Resources:

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Entrepreneurs' Organization (EO)

Mastering the Rockefeller Habits by Verne Harnish

Founder Mode by Paul Graham

The Captain Class by Sam Walker

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What if your suffering isn't coming from your circumstances, but from your stories?

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, workplace drama expert, leadership consultant, and best-selling author Cy Wakeman unpacks the inner chaos that holds high performers back. Through personal stories and hard-won lessons, she reveals how the ego fuels self-imposed suffering, how gratitude can evolve your perspective, and why true leadership begins with self-reflection. Alongside Jessica Mogill, Cy shares the practices and mindset shifts that can help you stop resisting reality and start showing up with clarity, calm, and compassion.

Here's what you'll learn:

Your peace begins where your ego ends — and this episode shows you the way.

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Show Notes:

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Links & Resources:

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What if your biggest competitive edge isn’t the channel you choose — but how hard you’re willing to commit?

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, serial entrepreneur, best-selling author, and the Founder of Rankings.io Chris Dreyer returns to break down what law firms are getting wrong about SEO, how AI is changing the digital playing field, and why consistency, community, and competition are more essential than ever. From dominating local markets to navigating Google’s evolving algorithms, Chris shares the no-BS truths that separate real results from wasted spend.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

Why “if you don’t commit” to SEO and review strategies, “it’s like an uphill battle”

How to earn Google’s trust through “real-world relationships” and local relevance

What it means to “never settle, always compete” — even after you hit your goals

If you’re ready to obsess over the things your competitors are overlooking, this episode will show you how to turn strategy into dominance.

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Show Notes:

01:54 – Introduction02:22 – What Law Firms Get Wrong About SEO06:01 – AI’s Impact on Search and Relevance12:39 – The Truth About AI-Generated Content15:40 – Advice for New Law Firms Entering SEO18:09 – Why Traditional Media Still Dominates22:17 – The Optimal Marketing Mix for Law Firms27:15 – Building Brand Affinity Through Grassroots Marketing32:48 – Proudest Moments and Hardest Lessons

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Links & Resources:

Rankings.io

Niching UpPersonal Injury and Lawyer Marketing: From Good to GOAT

Inside Tracker

Giftology

PIMCon (Personal Injury Lawyers Marketing & Management Conference)

Profits First

Cambridge Analytica Scandal

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What if trying to help everyone is the very thing keeping your law firm from growing?

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill challenge the myth that more is better — more practice areas, more clients, more complexity. Instead, they reveal why clarity, consistency, and restraint are the real drivers of sustainable growth.

From the $10M rule to the art of saying “no,” this episode is a practical blueprint for law firm owners ready to scale without spreading themselves — or their teams — too thin.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

Why the best cases go to the best marketers

What the $10M rule means for your expansion plans

Why generalists struggle to grow — and how specialists win

The real impact of saying “no” to misaligned clients

How focus helps you build authority and trust

If you’re ready to scale your firm without losing focus, this episode will challenge you to lead with clarity, say no with confidence, and grow where it matters most.

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Show Notes:

00:01 – Introduction

03:28 – Should I Niche Down to Compete With a Younger Attorney?

07:23 – Should I Expand Into New Practice Areas to Grow?

12:00 – How Do I Say No to Longtime Clients?

14:09 – The Power of Saying No to Stay Focused

15:30 – Why Boundaries Are a Sign of Growth

16:10 – Saying Yes Means Saying No to Something Else

16:14 – Final Thoughts: You Have the Power to Choose

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Links & Resources:

Turf Grass Phone Case 

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What if your greatest leadership challenge isn’t your team — it’s you?

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, decorated U.S. Army veteran and CEO of Berry Law, John Berry returns to share the tough lessons, tactical systems, and mindset shifts that have shaped his evolution as a leader. From military missions to managing a fast-growing law firm, John opens up about what it really takes to earn trust, retain A-players, and lead with conviction — even when the pressure is on.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

Why discipline, restraint, and reflection are essential to long-term leadership

How to recruit and retain top talent by scaling culture from the inside out

What it takes to become the kind of leader people choose to follow

If you’re ready to look in the mirror and lead at a higher level, this episode will show you how real change starts from within.

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Show Notes:

00:00 – Introduction: From Combat to Courtroom

02:18 – Why Most Leaders Get Leadership Wrong

05:42 – The Hard Lessons of Hiring and Building the Right Culture

10:04 – Leadership Under Pressure: Lessons from the Battlefield

17:09 – The Cost of Conflict Avoidance and the Power of Feedback

26:43 – Operation Spear Tip: Scalable Hiring Through Referrals

33:06 – When to Coach, Confront, or Cut Loose

42:18 – Simplifying Practice Areas to Scale with Focus

56:03 – Final Thoughts: Change Yourself to Change the Game

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Links & Resources:

Berry Law 

Veteran Led by John Berry 

Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink & Leif Babin 

The Dichotomy of Leadership by Jocko Willink & Leif Babin 

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What if the reason your clients, team, or peers don’t recognize your value… is because you never showed them?

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill breaks down the unseen habits, small slips, and silent wins that separate those who sustain excellence from those who quietly fall behind. From holding the line on standards to making your effort visible, this episode is a tactical reminder that the little things are never little — and that complacency has a price.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

Why discipline erodes in the details — and how to hold the line

How to make your unseen efforts visible to your team and clients

What it really takes to prevent success from turning into stagnation

Want to stay at the top? This episode is your reminder to act like it — every single day.

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Show Notes:

00:00 – Introduction

03:48 – Teaching Entrepreneurial Lessons to the Next Generation

08:07 – The Bracelet Business: Fulfillment, Hustle, and Gratitude

09:38 – Combating Entitlement by Sharing the Real Journey

13:16 – Why Gratitude, Not Resentment, Builds a Great Culture

15:00 – Are You Paranoid or Just Paying Attention?

17:05 – The Slippery Slope of Letting Standards Slip

18:10 – Making the Invisible Visible: How to Show Your Work

22:36 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways

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Links & Resources:

Atomic Habits by James Clear 

David Goggins 

Can’t Hurt Me by David Goggins 

Cameron Hanes 

The Score Takes Care of Itself by Bill Walsh 

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As we conclude celebrating five years of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, this Elite Athletes edition showcases the world-class performers who have redefined limits — mentally, physically, and professionally. These are the voices of champions who’ve trained in darkness, fought through failure, and built the mindset required to dominate on the world stage.

In this episode, we go beyond trophies and titles to uncover the discipline, resilience, and psychological mastery that separates the best from everyone else. Whether it’s breaking world records, surviving in isolation, or pushing through unimaginable pain, these athletes offer a window into what’s possible when greatness becomes non-negotiable.

This episode features:

Mark Beaumont: On why risk, adventure, and clarity of purpose matter more than comfort or certainty.

Colin O’Brady: On challenging the impossible — and growing through adversity, whether or not you succeed.

David Goggins: On building belief by choosing suffering, and how pain can become your greatest teacher.

Mat Fraser: On the compounding power of consistent habits — and how world champions optimize everything.

Tim Grover: On letting go of civility, mastering your dark side, and doing what winning demands.

If you want to understand what true grit, mental toughness, and elite-level focus really look like, this episode is your blueprint.

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Show Notes:

00:00 – Introduction: Unlocking Peak Performance with Elite Athletes

02:05 – Mark Beaumont: Around the World in 194 Days

07:14 – The Power of Planning, Pain, and Perspective

11:21 – Colin O’Brady: Why “The Impossible First” Mattered

17:24 – From Burn Victim to Triathlon Champion

26:05 – Crossing Antarctica Alone: Breaking Mental and Physical Limits

29:06 – David Goggins: Creating an Alter Ego to Withstand the Unthinkable

41:46 – Mat Fraser: Building 1% Gains into Unstoppable Momentum

54:10 – Tim Grover: Winning Is Uncivilized — And That’s the Point

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Links & Resources:

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Colin O’Brady

David Goggins

Mat Fraser

Tim Grover

The Impossible First by Colin O’Brady

Can’t Hurt Me by David Goggins

Never Finished by David Goggins

Relentless by Tim Grover

Winning by Tim Grover 

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