When growth starts to feel messy, the real risk is not the chaos. It’s what you quietly allow to slide.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill reflect on the last AMMA of the year and explore a recurring insight that emerges as firms scale. Most breakdowns do not start with big failures. They start with paper cuts, rushed training, and hires made out of urgency instead of alignment. This conversation unpacks how leaders should think when growth forces them to loosen their grip, without lowering the standard that got them there.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

This final AMMA of the year offers a clear lens for scaling responsibly without normalizing mediocrity in 2026.

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02:14 — Michael shares his biggest lesson from the year and explains why there is no finish line in business or life

06:33 — Why the most important work in building something great is often mundane, repetitive, and unglamorous

10:27 — Why growth problems rarely show up as major failures and usually begin as small paper cuts and quality slips

11:01 — How tolerating minor issues quietly resets the standard for the entire organization

16:03 — The challenge of training as you scale and why leaders cannot rely on being hands-on forever

18:38 — How unclear expectations and rushed onboarding lead to performance breakdowns

22:17 — How to decide whether filling a role actually helps growth or creates more downstream work

23:06 — What standards leaders must personally protect as the business grows beyond them

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What if the only thing standing between you and the next level is the courage to ignore the experts?

In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Kara Goldin, Founder of Hint Water and bestselling author of Undaunted, to reveal what it really takes to build a brand, a company, and a category from the ground up. From rejection and industry pushback to Goliath competitors and well-meaning “experts” who swear your idea won’t work, this conversation is a blueprint for staying unshakably committed to your vision, even when no one else understands it.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

If you want a real-world example of what unwavering commitment can create, this episode is it.

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Show Notes:

04:32 — Why Kara says she never would have started Hint if she knew how difficult the journey would be.

06:34 — What it took to create a completely new beverage category and convince buyers it mattered.

08:57 — The moment a senior Coca-Cola executive dismissed her idea and told her Americans “love sweet.”

12:51 — How Kara learned to separate genuine expertise from limiting beliefs disguised as advice.

16:06 — What watching Ted Turner build CNN taught her about conviction and pursuing ideas others doubt.

22:01 — How giving up Diet Coke for her own health became the unexpected catalyst for creating Hint.

30:56 — How little she actually knew about the beverage industry and why that ignorance helped her innovate.

35:25 — How landing Starbucks became a breakthrough moment that suddenly reversed without warning.

39:07 — Why Kara believes dark days don’t last forever and how unexpected opportunities follow adversity.

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What if the hardest years of your life turned out to be the ones that made you unstoppable?

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill break down why your greatest advantage is not your wins but the wisdom you have gained along the way. Drawing on Warren Buffett’s final shareholder letter, he explains how reflection, long-term thinking, and the ability to navigate uncertainty shape the leaders who endure. Whether this year felt like a breakthrough or a struggle, you will see why your future can still be greater than your past.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

If you’re ready to enter the next year wiser, stronger, and more intentional, this episode shows you how.

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02:08 — The lesson from Warren Buffett’s final shareholder letter and its relevance for long-term thinkers.

04:51 — Understanding the difference between a winning year and a learning year.

05:06 — How shifting from short-term decisions to five- and ten-year thinking changes your outcomes.

06:45 — The Navy SEAL “no finish line” analogy and why uncertainty shapes the strongest leaders.

08:10 — Why you must stop punishing your past self and evaluate decisions based on the information you had at the time.

10:13 — The real timeline of results and why growth depends on your starting point and expectations.

15:33 — How to know when your firm is truly ready to scale and why waiting to feel “ready” keeps you stuck.

20:23 — Making tough personnel decisions and why keeping the wrong people holds your entire team back.

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You can outwork a lot of things, but you can’t outwork bad sleep.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Dr. Michael Breus, renowned clinical psychologist and sleep expert, to break down the science, strategy, and psychology behind truly restorative sleep. From understanding your body’s nightly repair cycle to optimizing your environment for peak recovery, this conversation is a masterclass in reclaiming your energy, focus, and longevity.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

If you want to win tomorrow, it starts with how you recover tonight.

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Show Notes:

02:57 — Sleep 101: what deep sleep and REM actually do (physical repair vs. emotional “metabolism”) and why the glymphatic system matters.

10:26 — There’s no one-size-fits-all “optimal” sleep — how to know your right amount and when low sleep becomes a red flag for underlying disorders.

15:16 — Sleep debt and social jet lag: when catching up works (teens) and when it backfires for adults.

18:06 — The “napa-latte” and smart napping: how to use short naps and caffeine to survive a bad night without sabotaging the next one.

20:02 — The sleep system audit: mattress, pillow, air quality, light, sound, and temperature — the practical adjustments that move the needle.

29:29 — Which gadgets help vs. harm: why mouth tape is dangerous, when nasal dilators work, and the limits of sleep trackers.

32:34 — Alcohol and meal timing: how much, how early, and the three-hour rule to protect your deep sleep.

39:00 — Caffeine and cannabis timing: caffeine’s half-life, green tea/matcha alternatives, and how THC/CBD impact REM and HRV.

45:06 — Supplements decoded: magnesium, vitamin D, and why most people don’t need nightly melatonin — plus important dosing pitfalls.

51:09 — Creatine and sleep deprivation: what current research actually supports (and what it doesn’t).

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Most people want growth, but they surround themselves with people who quietly convince them to slow down.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill pulls back the curtain on what leadership really demands when the decisions you make are unpopular, misunderstood, or impossible to explain. From the hidden weight leaders carry to the emotional price of high standards, Michael breaks down why the toughest calls often define your future more than your biggest wins. If you have ever questioned whether doing the right thing was worth the fallout, this conversation will hit home.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

If you want to rise above the noise, start by refusing to lower your standards for anyone.

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01:44 — How Michael and Jessica celebrate after the Summit with pizza, and an intentional return to routine the next morning.

04:06 — Why the reward for work done well is often greater responsibility and higher expectations.

05:22 — How human biology pushes us toward comfort and why resisting that instinct is essential for growth.

07:12 — How listeners consume the AMA in wildly different ways and why Michael keeps the show ad-free as a way to pay it forward.

07:50 — The part of leadership no one warns you about, where you make decisions others will not understand and still carry the blame.

10:18 — How holding someone accountable reflects deeper care than avoiding the hard feedback they need to grow.

13:22 — Why ego is often the biggest barrier to improvement and how people rationalize away criticism that could actually help them advance.

16:57 — Why your leadership style must align with your authentic values instead of whatever culture trend is circulating online.

21:26 — How the culture you build determines who you attract, who you repel, and the pace at which your organization can grow.

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What if the greatest victories of your life are not the ones the world celebrates, but the ones no one ever sees?

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with three-time Olympic gymnast Dominique Dawes to explore the true cost of world-class performance and what it really takes to build a life defined by purpose, not pressure. From her history-making Olympic journey to rebuilding the sport from the inside out, Dominique reveals the sacrifices, struggles, and pivotal moments that shaped her mission to create a healthier culture for the next generation.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

If you are striving for excellence that lasts, this conversation will challenge you to rethink what winning really means.

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Show Notes:

04:56 — Dominique describes the grueling daily training schedule that made her want to quit.

06:45 — She explains why young gymnasts often sacrifice their entire childhood for less than five minutes on the Olympic stage.

08:44 — Dominique shares why gold medals do not make her top ten life moments and what truly matters more.

14:22 — She reflects on signing a lease before the pandemic and pushing through the uncertainty that followed.

17:21 — Dominique discusses expanding her academy and how her daughter telling her she was working too much changed everything.

20:14 — She explains how motherhood shifted her definition of success and forced her to re-evaluate priorities.

24:32 — Dominique talks about why relentless achievement can lead to burnout and what real balance looks like.

32:44 — She contrasts old-school coaching adversity with the healthier culture she’s building at her academies.

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What if the thing that makes your business unforgettable has nothing to do with the product and everything to do with the people and purpose behind it?

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Steve Carse, founder of King of Pops, to unpack how an idea became one of Atlanta’s most beloved brands. From pushing a single cart up the street to producing tens of thousands of pops a day, Steve shares what it really takes to build a culture-driven company, stay relevant, and scale without losing your identity.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

Want to build something people rave about and love doing it? This episode shows you what it requires.

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Show Notes:

02:34 — Steve shares why showing up consistently matters more than talent or timing

03:52 — The early fear that King of Pops might be a fad and how they pushed through uncertainty

07:30 — How artisan-level craft, sourcing, and process became their lasting competitive advantage

09:40 — The moment Steve realized the brand was becoming something bigger than a seasonal idea

12:36 — The challenge of scaling a beloved local brand into unfamiliar markets

14:07 — How COVID unexpectedly unlocked a new business model and created the cartrepreneur movement

19:39 — Why culture must be driven from the front and why leaders must care more than anyone else

38:24 — How becoming a parent changed Steve’s leadership, perspective, and purpose

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Feel like you’re drifting through life on autopilot? This episode will snap you awake.

In this AMMA edition of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle three deeply personal questions around identity, distraction, purpose, and reinvention. From the erosion of our collective attention span to the fear of starting over in your 40s, 50s, or 60s, this episode explores why so many high achievers reach a point where they look around and wonder how much of their life reflects their choices versus someone else’s expectations. With candid stories, tough-love truths, and practical reframes, Michael and Jessica break down how to reclaim your time, rediscover who you are, and redefine what comes next.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

If you have ever questioned who you are, where you are going, or what you truly want, this episode will remind you that it is never too late to rewrite your story.

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02:34 — Michael describes the collapse of human attention and why people are no longer present in their own lives

03:04 — How constant phone use destroys meaningful connection, even during everyday moments like dinner

05:39 — The moment Michael realized technology was reshaping his kids’ habits and what happened when he took the iPad away

06:49 — A challenge for listeners: try an entirely phone-free Thanksgiving and notice how differently you feel

09:58 — Why people wake up realizing they’ve built a life based on expectations instead of their own desires

12:14 — You are not starting over. You are pivoting with decades of experience and wisdom

16:23 — The danger of retiring without purpose and why people fall apart when they have nothing meaningful to do

17:31 — What Michael would do if he could “burn it all down” and start something completely new, and why he chooses not to

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What would your life look like if you stopped seeing limitations as roadblocks and started seeing them as opportunities?

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Kyle Maynard, world record-holding athlete, entrepreneur, speaker, best-selling author, and featured speaker at the 2025 Game Changers Summit, who was born without arms or legs yet has achieved what most would consider impossible. From climbing Mount Kilimanjaro to becoming a champion wrestler and mixed martial artist, Kyle shares the mindset that has allowed him to turn obstacles into fuel. This conversation is a masterclass in perseverance, perspective, and possibility.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

If you have ever doubted your potential, this episode will remind you that your only real limitation is belief.

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Show Notes:

03:22 — Kyle shares how his parents’ mindset shaped his view on adversity

04:10 — The story of how learning to eat independently changed his life

07:07 — Early lessons from football and why losing 35 matches taught him more than winning ever could

09:42 — What finally led to his first wrestling victory, and how it changed his confidence

10:58 — The long road from failure to becoming a nationally ranked wrestler

12:05 — Lessons from sports that shaped his business and leadership philosophy

12:32 — How training with UFC champion Forrest Griffin pushed him to new limits

17:13 — The climb up Mount Kilimanjaro and what it taught him about purpose and possibility

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What if your firm’s biggest threat isn’t poor strategy or weak talent — but misaligned leadership?

As part of the “Road to the Summit”, a special series ramping up to the 2025 Game Changers Summit this November 12–13, we’re revisiting some of the most powerful conversations ever featured at our events. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Jessica Mogill takes the stage at the 2024 Game Changers Summit to expose the hidden cost of poor leadership. 

She breaks down why high performers don’t automatically make great leaders, how fear-based management destroys culture, and what it really takes to build alignment at every level. Through real stories from inside Crisp, Jessica reveals how small cracks at the top can ripple through an entire organization, and what leaders can do to stop it.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

Want to create lasting impact through leadership that lifts everyone around you? Start here.

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Show Notes:

01:44 – Jessica introduces the theme: the danger of promoting top performers into leadership without the right mindset.

03:02 – Jessica connects “The Boys” to high performers who turn destructive without balance and empathy.

06:35 – “A crack at the leadership level is a canyon to the rest of the team.” She explains how misaligned leadership ripples across the company.

07:56 – Global cost of poor leadership: $7 trillion. Jessica shares how poor management drains performance and trust.

11:32 – Skip-level meetings reveal hidden issues. She explains how transparency rebuilt alignment.

17:08 – The story of “Casey,” the fear-based leader who created a culture of fear and disengagement.

24:57 – The peacekeeper leader “Lisa” avoids conflict, causing accountability to erode.

32:11 – The veteran leader “Jake” clings to the past and kills innovation through resistance to change.

39:35 – Jessica closes with her reflection: “What you tolerate today will become your standard tomorrow.”

Links & Resources:

The Boys (Amazon Prime Video)

Developing the Leader Within You 2.0 by John C. Maxwell

Kat Cole

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