Dacher Keltner is a professor of psychology at University of California, Berkeley, where he directs the Berkeley Social Interaction Lab. He is also the founder and faculty director of the Greater Good Science Center. and host of the podcast The Science of Happiness. He is the author of The Power Paradox: How We Gain and Lose Influence (2017), Born to Be Good: The Science of a Meaningful Life, (2009) and a slew of academic books and scientific articles.

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Intro music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; "Into the Country" by Three Dog Night; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

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