Most leaders want to believe they're building something durable: a company that matters, a culture that sticks, a system people can rely on. But what if most organizations don't have the staying power of a great city like Venice...and instead are more like a gold rush town? What if that same company is more likely to change you than you are to change it?

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Mentioned references:

00:00 Intro + Check-In: What was your first job and did you learn anything from it that you still use today?

02:34 Finding your organizational trigger words

08:41 Can you really change your company?

11:12 Most companies are more like gold rush towns than lasting institutions

15:26 Finding joy at work when the company won't love you back

18:29 Every leader is a game designer

21:45 Stepping back and seeing the system

27:55 Why chasing clarity at work might be the wrong goal

33:20 Having all the data and asking the wrong questions

35:34 How Dotwork is rethinking organizational strategy tools

40:42 Building flexible operating systems that leaders will actually use

44:14 Building a generalist career in a specialist world

50:21 Leave us a review and share the show with a friend

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