March 13, 2024

52: Trey Ferguson: Theologizin Bigger

1 hour 2 minutes

Have you ever felt like your faith tradition put you in a box, stifling your curiosity and ability to ask real questions? If so, then you'll want to hear this interview with author Trey Ferguson.

Trey's book "Theologizin Bigger" takes a refreshing look at how to "theologize" - to wrestle with faith and theology in an embodied way that embraces mystery, questioning, and diverse perspectives. In our conversation, Trey unpacked how the Western evangelical desire for a uniform, objective understanding of faith has alienated and dismissed voices from the margins. He made an insightful distinction between merely studying theology as an expert versus the active, effortful work of "theologizing." Trey also painted a powerful picture of Pentecost as the antidote to the Tower of Babel - where the miracle was the ability for truth to be expressed in many languages, not conformity to one standard. With wisdom and lyrical profundity, he issued a call to hold a non-polarized space that allows both questioners and doctrinal guardians to learn from each other's perspectives. Trey's work is an inspiring vision for how to engage faith with intellectual humility while reclaiming our God-given curiosity.

Trey Ferguson, is a pastor, podcaster, and public theologian who likes playing with words. Whether it be with tweets, videos, essays, sermonic presentations, Bible studies, podcasts, or speaking engagements, he’s always trying to provoke an image in a seeker with some combination of words. .

You can find Trey’s book here: https://rb.gy/s3tzca

You can connect to Trey’s many other works here: https://www.pastortrey05.com/

Time Stamps for the episode:

02:46 Sports Dad

08:23 Trey’s soil his life grew from

13:29 Faith Evolution

18:15 Theologizin breaks a sweat

22:35 Theology that works in real life

26:59 Shrinking churches with taller walls

33:09 Inerrancy as white supremacy

38:06 Spiritualizing our problems

43:03 A humble hermeneutic of love

48:29 Weaponizing our ideas

51:20 Pentecost diversity vs Evangelical uniformity

57:20 Prioritize participation not objectification

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